Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Poll ended at Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:05 pm

Yes, show me those damn cards!
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20%
No, it adds to the entertainment value!
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80%
 
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby Des » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:19 am

Lizard wrote:BTW anyone ever seen a dead card dealt at npl e.g. joker, 2 identical cards what ever?
I haven’t so it shouldn’t be an issue but if you haven’t looked at your cards and you get dealt one that’s just too bad and you don’t get a redeal or misdeal.
Just food for thought.


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For once someone has put together a post which isnt whinging, and actually makes a great point!!

Well done lizard! And I totally agree too about the dead card issue.
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby Ondie J » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:23 am

I think my post on penguins wasn't whinging, was very informative and possibly even made a great point or two about them.
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:38 pm

If you're all in blind, you shouldn't have to. It should be up to the player.
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby todd182 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:14 pm

builds the suspence don't look.never look until you have to.

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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby steve b » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:29 am

i think that waiting to show your cards till you have to does build the suspence and add to the entertainment of the game and because npl is a free roll tournament thats the most important thing however we are getting closer to the state finals and thats where it becomes a different story.

When there is money on the table or a prizepool as big as the state final then showing your cards gives everyone at the table a chance to see them and adds another occasion for the table to assess wether they have read your tells correctly or not, it also helps other players figure out what type of cards you like to play. if someone is all in and there position requires them to show first then they should have to, that player may win the hand and still be in the game. Also the player thats all in last to act should get the oppertunity afforded to them to see what the other players in the hand are playing with, there is no penalty for going all in and there is no rule that states when you are all in you must show your cards, you shouldnt have to give a tell away or miss getting a tell that you otherwise would just because you are all in.

The rules for showing your cards when a all in bet is made exist and are quite clear, they are the same as in any other time a bet is made, if your bet is called you must show first, after all thats what a call is. If you wish to claim the pot then you need to show both cards to claim the pot.

Lizard makes a very good point about a mucked hand, how many times have you seen three cards dealt to a player by mistake, imagine being all in not looking have betting happen around you, so the hand cant be called a misdeal and you have 3 cards you have no chance of staying in the tournament, this has actually happened to me.

And finally when there is a side pot, if the all in player shows the winning hand first to take down the main pot, how many times have you seen a player in the side pot muck there hand thinking the hand is over and forgetting about the side pot. loosing a pot they would of won if the order of play was upheld.

In short while freeroll is there for fun and entertainmentand thats how npl is played most of the time and its great, there are rules for these situations and when your hard earnt cash is on the line i am sure i am not alone in my want to see them adhered to

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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby BigPete33 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:11 am

some good points steve, let's not forget there isn't any hard earned cash on the line at NPL tourneys though.

One thing I've seen a lot of (mostly from TD Darren) is the person all-in blind DOES have to show their cards, but not until the river. It's probably worth adding that the poll was referring specifically to all-in blind.
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby Bob B » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:24 pm

I really don't agree with the "I haven't looked so I don't want to show them" crap.

If you are force to go allin because your one of the blinds and there are others who also go allin or call after seeing their cards, why should theirs be opened and not yours???

I have at times just capped my cards without looking. But, to be honest I don't really care one way or the other as I usually look at them.

I must say I usually keep them capped only, and I say only, when Dakota is the dealer. He gets a kick out of anything where someone gets busted out of a good hand and I must say I do too, LOL.
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby xtal » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:35 pm

i finks its up to the person playing the cards if they want to show or not...
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Re: Show cards immediately or not when all in blind ??

Postby Tommo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:35 am

Its all a bit of fun with not looking when ur all in blind. I prefer not to but each to their own i guess...
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