You're a Bunch of Factors

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:36 pm**

I have probably asked these heaps of times, sorry if I have, but I wanted to discuss stuff again...
Being on the slower side of thinking, it does help.. LOL

Personally I think I play a pretty predictable game..
Playing top percentage cards, rarely if ever doing position play etc...

Being someone that is not able to retain stats, out percentages, etc, I tend to stick with what I know.
Is this a necessarily bad thing??

Also,
Does anyone believe that playing on the same table week after week with the same people, enhances or lessens your chances of becoming a better player?

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:39 pm**

Nevah play JJ wrote:Personally I think I play a pretty predictable game..
Playing top percentage cards, rarely if ever doing position play etc...

Being someone that is not able to retain stats, out percentages, etc, I tend to stick with what I know.
Is this a necessarily bad thing??

Not at all.

Nevah play JJ wrote:Also,
Does anyone believe that playing on the same table week after week with the same people, enhances or lessens your chances of becoming a better player?
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Hard to say. If you're just playing the game on autopilot and not learning anything, then yes. If you're paying attention to the plays and cards of your opponents, then it can definitely help.

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:40 pm**

What's important is to add to your game when you feel comfortable. Nothing dangerous about an ABC style of play, and you can add to your skills with experience. Don't feel obligated (like I have) to try things you shouldn't be trying because you don't have the experience or knowledge as yet.

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:42 pm**

muzzington wrote:What's important is to add to your game when you feel comfortable. Nothing dangerous about an ABC style of play, and you can add to your skills with experience. Don't feel obligated (like I have) to try things you shouldn't be trying because you don't have the experience or knowledge as yet.

This is a great post.

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:45 pm**

That is awesome feedback Muzz... Thanks heaps.

Last night we had a woman on our table that blitzed everyone because she played cards like K-3 because they are suited.

I raised 3x blind with AK offsuit and even though I hit very well, she won because of the flush.
I even put a bet in after the flop because I hit on the Ace. She chased and chased to the river.

I played tight.. how on earth can that style of play ever be beaten?
I wondered if I was not predictable with the style of play, then maybe she would have been knocked off the pot??

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:48 pm**

Nevah play JJ wrote:That is awesome feedback Muzz... Thanks heaps.

Last night we had a woman on our table that blitzed everyone because she played cards like K-3 because they are suited.

I raised 3x blind with AK offsuit and even though I hit very well, she won because of the flush.
I even put a bet in after the flop because I hit on the Ace. She chased and chased to the river.

I played tight.. how on earth can that style of play ever be beaten?
I wondered if I was not predictable with the style of play, then maybe she would have been knocked off the pot??

Most of the time, it won't. If they're going to call you down, they will call you down. Being aggressive seems to work somewhat though, put the pressure on them, every street. As in 2/3 pot bet on the flop, and jamming the turn.

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:49 pm**

Depending where you are playing, sometimes people will decide "I'm playing this pot" and commit to it when they probably shouldn't.

She might have won that pot, but you are more likely to be a winning player in the long run with your style

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:52 pm**

usually when i go to the kingy, i play with the same group of guys every week, and usually have home games with these guys as well, so i pretty much know their games back to front

the problem with this is you can get caught out with "fancy play syndrome"

so while playing on autopilot is a bad thing, going to the other extreme is worse, especially when you play someone else that doesn't know that you are making moves.

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:52 pm**

Nevah play JJ wrote:I have probably asked these heaps of times, sorry if I have, but I wanted to discuss stuff again...
Being on the slower side of thinking, it does help.. LOL

Here to help Caroline.

Nevah play JJ wrote:Personally I think I play a pretty predictable game..
Playing top percentage cards, rarely if ever doing position play etc...

Everyone has to learn the basics and feel comfortable doing it, there is no shame in this. Others play a bit unpredictable to get paid off when they do get a big hand. Start with the ABC style of poker, and over time, hopefully you will find a happy medium in your game, where people will fold AK to your j high flush draw. :-)

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Nevah play JJ wrote:Being someone that is not able to retain stats, out percentages, etc, I tend to stick with what I know.
Is this a necessarily bad thing??

Out percentages check in my sig and reread. Just have to work out how many cards can help you, times by 4 if the flop and river is to come, and times by 2 for the river.

Not necessarily a bad thing, a lot of live players use reads and tells on players to hone their game. Online players use stats and percentages because it gives them a quick idea of the type of player they are dealing with, and when they are on 12 tables, quick info to make decisions is easy. Not getting into Online vs Live, both have very different skillsets that they use to play poker.

Nevah play JJ wrote:Also,
Does anyone believe that playing on the same table week after week with the same people, enhances or lessens your chances of becoming a better player?

Improves your chances against those players, only if you are learning from their hands and bets. Lessens your chances if you are all playing to keep each other in the game. No new money to the table, means you average stack stays the same vs other tables increasing because of new chips coming in from players broken down from other tables.

Also, means you can deal with other styles of play on different tables. Watching a player from the beginning of the game, seeing their style and the subtle changes as they play. Helps you to try and gauge new players when they turn up on your table.

This is all just my thoughts.
Hope it helps.
Brett

Posted: **Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:53 pm**

AceLosesKing wrote:Hard to say. If you're just playing the game on autopilot and not learning anything, then yes. If you're paying attention to the plays and cards of your opponents, then it can definitely help.

This again is fantastic feedback.

We have 2 blokes that sit at the table and you just know if there is a muppet hand to be played, they are going to not only play it, but kick butt when they do.

I don't learn from that, I get frustrated and disheartened. However, to a small degree, it does force me to tighten up and wait. So I guess that does give lessons in patience.

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