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Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:07 pm
by bennymacca
there are heaps of people that still struggle with some of the trickier, but i was pretty happy explaining this one

it was one of those times where there were some limpers, then a dude shoved for less than 2BB, and a limper tried to raise again

most of the table was a bit confused when i told the limper she couldn't raise again.

i told them that if the person that is all in has not made a legal raise, then betting is not reopened to people that have already acted in the hand.

it was cool because a guy told me thats the best explanation of that rule that he has heard and thanks heaps for the explanation

so yeah, i was happy with this one.

but that brings me to my point

does anyone know of an article that explains all of these trickier rules?

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:14 pm
by David
I actually thought it was 50% of a raise.

If you go all in for 1400 when the blinds are 500/1000, then the action hadn't been reopened. If you go all in for 1900 when the blinds are 500/1000 then it had.

But maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:18 pm
by AceLosesKing
David wrote:I actually thought it was 50% of a raise.

If you go all in for 1400 when the blinds are 500/1000, then the action hadn't been reopened. If you go all in for 1900 when the blinds are 500/1000 then it had.

But maybe I'm thinking of something else.


If you haven't acted, you're free to do what you want.

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:20 pm
by David
I know.

But I'm pretty sure you can re-raise if you've limped, if the all in was more than 50% of a raise.

But I'm probably wrong.

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:20 pm
by Bacon
AceLosesKing wrote:
David wrote:I actually thought it was 50% of a raise.

If you go all in for 1400 when the blinds are 500/1000, then the action hadn't been reopened. If you go all in for 1900 when the blinds are 500/1000 then it had.

But maybe I'm thinking of something else.


If you haven't acted, you're free to do what you want.


To a degree... If you wanted to raise after the 1400, you have to make it 2400, don't you? Being a full BB over the current bet?

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:24 pm
by AceLosesKing
David wrote:I know.

But I'm pretty sure you can re-raise if you've limped, if the all in was more than 50% of a raise.

But I'm probably wrong.


This is true, I think.

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:25 pm
by bennymacca
David wrote:I know.

But I'm pretty sure you can re-raise if you've limped, if the all in was more than 50% of a raise.

But I'm probably wrong.


actually, im think you might be right

what constitutes a legal raise? is it 50% or a full bb?

Bacon wrote:To a degree... If you wanted to raise after the 1400, you have to make it 2400, don't you? Being a full BB over the current bet?


its got nothing to do with BB, its got to do with how much someone has raised. a min raise preflop is a BB, so this is where it comes in

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:26 pm
by Scotty

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:32 pm
by David
So benny the cunt, depending what the actual amount is that the guy went all in for, you might have given out bad advice ;)


You should forfeit your winnings.

Mis-Tourney.

Re: Trickier Rule Clarifications

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:33 pm
by Scotty
The 50% rule applies to limit poker.