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OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:08 pm
by xtal
CAN ANYONE BEAT THIS??? I played at the royal hotel-Kent town..late game on Thursday night (a bit tanked BTW...lol)

but anywho... after the first break i was on 19 and a half thousand in chips WITHOUT using my drink cards
that's a preeety big stack

i did not win

Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:21 pm
by Garth Kay
James "baby butler" once had a tournament where he had accumulated almost 50% of the chips in play before the first break, can't exactly remember the exact amount.
At Pooraka I once had 30,000 accumulated before the first break, it might have been more there was three stacks of purples.
But anyway, great job! Next lesson, how to play the big stack?
Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:43 pm
by AceLosesKing
xtal wrote:i did not win

You shouldn't be expected to. Winning is very hard, and on the final table, has more to do with luck, than your chip stack. With $19,000 at the start of the second break anything can happen. You could call an all in for $5,000 with AA and get smashed by trips. Next hand, hit a straight, call an all in for $7,000, lose to quads. Then you're left with $7,000, after two hands. Still think you're gonna win?
Anything can happen that early.
The night was far from over - just because you have that many chips, that early, doesn't mean you're locked into a position on the final table. Out of curiosity, where did you finish, and how many runners were there?
Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:53 pm
by Scotty
Not in the points, 53 runners
Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:06 pm
by Origami
Scott wrote:Not in the points, 53 runners
Carlsbergs has that effect on the young ones

Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:13 pm
by Garth Kay
Really ALK? Having 19,000 at the first break with 53 runners does not mean you should not be expected to make the final table. Even saying that you should not be expected to make the final table with any chipstack is a comment I would advise you to review.
If I am in a tournament with 53 runners and a start bank of 3,000 that equates to 159,000 chips in play, I have 12% of the chips in play. I also have the chip stack of the average chip stack size when there are eight players remaining.
I would be expecting to make the final table 66% of the time in this position, I would also be expecting a points position 80% of the time.
When playing in a tournament I always set myself a goal of how many chips I want to be holding at certain times of the tournament. I always have a final table goal for chip stack size. Something you should always be considering is what the average chip stack is in the room (how many players started multiplied by start stack divided by players remaining), what blind levels you are at how many rounds of the table you can do without playing until you are blinded out, and how far away I am from my elapsed goal time and what I need to do to achieve my goal.
But with a lead like that, as mentioned above, you should be contemplating a points finish every time. Only because as a poker player you should never doubt yourself or your ability whilst in a tourney. And to say that someone should not expect to make the final table, no matter in what context, is probably not the best comment.
Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:19 pm
by xtal
AceLosesKing wrote:xtal wrote:i did not win

You shouldn't be expected to. Winning is very hard, and on the final table, has more to do with luck, than your chip stack. With $19,000 at the start of the second break anything can happen. You could call an all in for $5,000 with AA and get smashed by trips. Next hand, hit a straight, call an all in for $7,000, lose to quads. Then you're left with $7,000, after two hands. Still think you're gonna win?
Anything can happen that early.
The night was far from over - just because you have that many chips, that early, doesn't mean you're locked into a position on the final table. Out of curiosity, where did you finish, and how many runners were there?
first of all i did not expect to make it on the final table... and i know anything can happen i was just AMAZED on how many chips i had that's all you did not have to be mean about it...

Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:20 pm
by Garth Kay
I'm pretty impressed Crystal, how many players did you knock out on the way to the first break that would have to be 6 or 7?
Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:20 pm
by xtal
Garth Kay wrote:Really ALK? Having 19,000 at the first break with 53 runners does not mean you should not be expected to make the final table. Even saying that you should not be expected to make the final table with any chipstack is a comment I would advise you to review.
If I am in a tournament with 53 runners and a start bank of 3,000 that equates to 159,000 chips in play, I have 12% of the chips in play. I also have the chip stack of the average chip stack size when there are eight players remaining.
I would be expecting to make the final table 66% of the time in this position, I would also be expecting a points position 80% of the time.
When playing in a tournament I always set myself a goal of how many chips I want to be holding at certain times of the tournament. I always have a final table goal for chip stack size. Something you should always be considering is what the average chip stack is in the room (how many players started multiplied by start stack divided by players remaining), what blind levels you are at how many rounds of the table you can do without playing until you are blinded out, and how far away I am from my elapsed goal time and what I need to do to achieve my goal.
But with a lead like that, as mentioned above, you should be contemplating a points finish every time. Only because as a poker player you should never doubt yourself or your ability whilst in a tourney. And to say that someone should not expect to make the final table, no matter in what context, is probably not the best comment.
THANKS garth for sticking up for me

Re: OMG GET OUT!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:21 pm
by xtal
yeah about that
