Oh, come on...

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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby Bacon » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:37 pm

Actually I think she showed AFTER the flop came out...

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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby BigPete33 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:30 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:
Scott wrote:Were the two callers the SB and BB? I'm gonna take a guess that it was one late position caller, and the BB who completed.


No. Normal callers around the table. SB and BB had a moderate stack and folded. And I raised before the two callers had a chance to act.

Let me just say that I didn't put anyone on carp like 3 5 suited, and my Aces were smashing everyone (PREFLOP!!), so I min-raised because I wanted value. Even so, who calls 12k on 3 5 suited. Pathetic.

I know I played it right.



Hang on.... the point of min raising there was to get more moolah in the pot (cos you know a min raise won't be respected).. and you're moaning about sum1 actually calling with semi-connected suited cards and how dare they actually get a favourable flop?


unfrickenbelievable.
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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby maccatak11 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:15 pm

yeah i always find min raising is a lot more trouble than its worth. Instead of min raising and getting 3 or four callers, raising 3 or 4 times the bb and getting one caller does the same job doesn't it?

There is likely to be a similar amount of cash in the pot and you are playing against one hand instead of 3 aren't you? and hey if everyone folds you have still won the pot. My philosophy is to win the pot when i know im in front, after all AA is only one pair. (Ive been sucked out on too many times to 'milk' pots without the nuts of very close to it).

Annoys me when people say, oh carp that guy hit the river and beat me, when they only min raised with a big pair, and min bet on turn and river.

Granted a lot of raises aren't respected in NPL, but a 600 raise is respected a lot more that a 50 raise isn't it?
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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby Bob B » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:32 am

Try this one then.

Blinds $2k / $4k. UG folds I'm next with AJ suited. I won my BB with an Allin which was a good pot so, I count out my chips and had $11k. I asked myself, do I fold, call, raise or go Allin?

90% of the table know that I play fairly tight and I would normally go ALLIN only if I had a really good hand. I thought about it and with around 24 runners left I needed to make a play for the blinds and went ALLIN.

Everyone folded aound to the BB who I hadn't played b4 but I took him down on my BB earlier. Any way, he took a while looking at his 2 cards and his stack and looked like he was about to fold and decided and says "what the hell" and called.

He turns over K7 not sure if they were suited or not because I just couldn't believe he called the extra $7k with that sort of hand.

Well he hit 2 kings on the flop and the turn and river gave him another pair for a full house. I did the right thing shook his hand left the table and licked my wounds.

In hindsight I could have called and dropped the same amount on the flop trying to represent the Kings.

Or folded and take a chance on my blinds which were about to go up and lost with crappier cards.

Or just stay in there and make points and hope to suck out with minimum chips. I know the hand wasn't the best or that I was in a good position had I just called.

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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby AceLosesKing » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:56 am

BigPete33 wrote:Hang on.... the point of min raising there was to get more moolah in the pot (cos you know a min raise won't be respected).. and you're moaning about sum1 actually calling with semi-connected suited cards and how dare they actually get a favourable flop?


unfrickenbelievable.


Yes :D

A min raise was (for him) 12k. Not 6, 12. That is a lot to call with 3s 5s.
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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby maccatak11 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:05 am

yeah its a tough one bob knowing what to do with AJ UTG. I think it can be over played, and the fact that you had recently gone all-in makes it more likely that other players would call.

What was the BB's stack looking like? if the extra 7K was for the rest of his chips then its prob not a wise call, but if he had 25K and had just seen you steal some blinds, maybe he thought his King was good.

Remember he is only a 2 to 1 underdog at worst with fresh cards.
Theres lots of hands that can beat AJ, and i myself have been caught many times raisning and being smashed by AQ or AK. its a ten times better hand on the button than it is UTG i think.
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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby AceLosesKing » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:52 pm

Bob B wrote:He turns over K7 not sure if they were suited or not because I just couldn't believe he called the extra $7k with that sort of hand.


Depending on how much I had, I'd call that. Heads up, K7 (suited?) ain't too bad.

If you've got like $10k or less though... fold. Holding AJ suited, you played that hand right - can't really fold it, so all in was your only option. Just bad luck.
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Re: Oh, come on...

Postby Bob B » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:28 pm

Hi there Macca. The previous pot I took out with a straight that I hit on the flop and cards were shown.

He may like the King anything as he called a $5k raise with A T 7 on the flop. Then another $5k on the turn with a rag. And then called another $5k bet by going allin with his remaining chips.

They turn over their cards he has K7 to A9 from memory.
Guess what hit the river??????????? Yep the mystery king :lol:

Hi there AK, yeah he had around $6k left and I know what your saying too. But I thought my timing was good LOL obviously not LOL :o
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