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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby rcon » Wed May 20, 2009 9:15 pm

BigPete33 wrote:That's an automated reply :)
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby BigPete33 » Wed May 20, 2009 9:17 pm

I can also deduce that maccas email program is set to check for new mail every 5 minutes :)


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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby maccatak11 » Wed May 20, 2009 9:22 pm

Im still impressed.
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby BigPete33 » Wed May 20, 2009 10:30 pm

It's certainly better than an automated reply along the lines of 'sod off you ninny'
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2009 10:44 pm

maccatak11 wrote:Im still impressed.


you are impressed by those little paddles with the rubber ball attached to the string though, so it doesn't really count
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby Bacon » Wed May 20, 2009 10:49 pm

:o A blue car!
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby Scotty » Wed May 20, 2009 11:11 pm

PMSL Bacon :lol:

Almost earned the "So much win" image :D

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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby maccatak11 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:03 pm

maccatak11 wrote:Check this out. i wasn't even involved in this hand but its one of the weirdest hands ever. Check out the betting from the other two.


PokerStars Game #28405351548: Tournament #165178735, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/20 4:15:52 ET
Table '165178735 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: 94alex (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: Luuk1212 (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: mdt25 (1310 in chips)
Seat 4: maccatak11 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: kwkkwk (3450 in chips)
Seat 6: Testerwayne (1390 in chips)
Seat 7: Srebrenick (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: non-thinking player (1500 in chips)
Srebrenick: posts small blind 10
non-thinking player: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to maccatak11 [3s Jc]
94alex: folds
Luuk1212: raises 80 to 100
mdt25: folds
maccatak11: folds
kwkkwk: raises 1340 to 1440
Testerwayne: folds
Srebrenick: folds
non-thinking player has timed out
non-thinking player: folds
non-thinking player is sitting out
Luuk1212: raises 10 to 1450 and is all-in
kwkkwk: folds
Uncalled bet (10) returned to Luuk1212
Luuk1212 collected 2910 from pot
Luuk1212: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2910 | Rake 0
Seat 1: 94alex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Luuk1212 collected (2910)
Seat 3: mdt25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: maccatak11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kwkkwk folded before Flop
Seat 6: Testerwayne (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Srebrenick (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: non-thinking player (big blind) folded before Flop
maccatak11: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
maccatak11: OMFG




ok remember this, i forwarded this hand onto stars support and got this reply. sorry but its pretty long.

poker stars dude wrote:Hello Matt,

Thank you once again for reporting your concerns to us. Although we domonitor the games for collusion, we always appreciate vigilant players suchas yourself reporting any strange or unusual play to us for review.

I havecompleted my investigation into the accounts of the players 'kwkkwk' and'Luuk1212'. The first thing that we look for in such cases is a relationship between thetwo players. In this instance, they live in different countries (Holland andCanada) and have no common indicators on their accounts which might lead meto believe that they know each other.

I then look for frequency of play together. I am looking to see if theseplayers seem to be seeking each other out. Generally (although not always)colluding players play more often with each other than with other players.Although a high frequency of play is not necessarily an indictment, it canbe a harbinger of unethical play. In this case, they have only ever playedone tournament together, the one in which you also played. With that said, the real question comes in the play of the tournaments. Oneof the advantages of online poker is that there is a full record of everyhand.

As a result of this, we can look through the hands with all cards faceup; as a result, cheaters cannot hide what they are doing. In looking attournament play for collusion, we check for such things as:
1) Best hand play, where the two players play only the better of their twohands.
2) Softplay, where the two players refuse to bet against each other.
3) Chip dumping/Stack balancing, where the two players work to help eachother survive by deliberately losing to each other if one's stack is short. I reviewed the tournament in question with all cards face up, looking forany forms of team play. I am happy to report that I found no evidence of anyof the above forms of collusion.

Both players made logical and explainabledecisions at all times based on their hole cards and table position - withthe exception of the hand that you noticed. We often see that less experienced players, when they have to leave thetable deliberately dump their chips to one other player, rather than justsit out. In this instance, 'kwkkwk' deliberaetly dumped chips to a completestranger (Luuk1212). 'kwkkwk' has now been warned not to do this in thefuture and if they are unable to carry on playing to just sit out.

I amsatisfied that there was no malicious intent here and it was simply anhonest mistake. Overall, given the lack of suspiciously high play rates, the lack of anyrelationship between their two accounts, and the lack of any suspicious playduring this event, there is nothing to indicate that these two players arecolluding in any way. In light of your report, I have placed notes in bothaccounts so if any future suspicious play between these two players is notedthere will be a record of this investigation. As you can see, we have a lot of tools at our disposal which help us keepour games honest and fair. In addition, the thousands of honest, vigilantplayers who point out situations that merit investigation are an importantpart of our arsenal. Thank you for doing your part to protect the integrityof our games. Kind Regards, JimPokerStars Support Team




Didnt paste too well, but i think its interesting. Gives an insight into how the online sights go about investigating certain accusations made against players. Im impressed again.
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:46 pm

Cheers for following that up, Matty. I was looking forward to their reply.

Sidenote, go Pokerstars!
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Re: New best hand ever.

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:51 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:Cheers for following that up, Matty. I was looking forward to their reply.

Sidenote, go Pokerstars!



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