Beat/Vent Thread

[Garth Kay]

$20 NLH villian is vpip 47 agg 0.0 my vpip 30 agg 4.6
I am CO
cooler ... or am I just not supposed to be in this pot? (fold pre FTW?)

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5850732

Sample is how many hands?

Firstly, why shove the flop?

Secondly, what were you putting UTG on, considering he limp calls from early pos and then donk bets the flop?

Thirdly, where is the value in raising if UTG is playing 47% of hands?

Do you understand what the aggressive factor related to?

The answers to these questions will help with your initial question.

[John Miller]

Sample is how many hands?

Firstly, why shove the flop?

Secondly, what were you putting UTG on, considering he limp calls from early pos and then non-thinking player bets the flop?

Thirdly, where is the value in raising if UTG is playing 47% of hands?

Do you understand what the aggressive factor related to?

The answers to these questions will help with your initial question.

45 hands

I had seen him show down A rag in several spots I put him on A x pre

post flop i thought he had A5 and was betting a squeeze with button to act after me he never has AK here

he has folded to a 3bet a couple of times, (once I can understand HEM a little better I can get more info on the figures)

agg factor I thought was how aggressive a player is in the continuation of a hand post flop ie bets more that he calls... in this case i went with my read and put him on the A5 and lost ... lol

So much for that read... back to the drawing board, I did end up at the end of the session but this hand had me befuddled

I guess at this stage I am a break even player... looking to go to the next level, purchased HEM this week and hopefully that will help me define what I am doing wrong.

[bennymacca]

if he has A5, he is never calling the flop after you shove. in fact i think only aces, other kings, and 55 are.

i would be flatting 100% of the time on this flop, give them a chance to spew off their chips on the turn

[rcon]

I run so good.

On the flip side, gotta love playing when you're not distracted by study'n'stuff.

Next hand, with me ultra SS, Button from this hand gets himself knocked out holding JJv BS's AQ. hilarious.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 13 Tournament, 4000/8000 Blinds 1000 Ante (3 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t156564)
Button (t48807)
Hero (SB) (t64629)

Hero's M: 4.31

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
Button bets t24000, Hero raises to t63629 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls t23807 (All-In)

Flop: (t106614) A, 6, 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t106614) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t106614) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t106614

Results:
Button had A, 7 (two pair, Aces and fives).
Hero had 9, 9 (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Button won t106614

[Larx36]

***** Cassava Hand History for Game 97989794 *****
$3,000/$6,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 14 12 2010 23:11:48
Tournament #29064137 Free - Table #5 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: BIGGERACES48 ( $84,030 )
Seat 5: 888LARX36 ( $63,128 )
Seat 6: rickwoody ( $99,192 )
Seat 7: CRAZY_88 ( $84,311 )
Seat 9: marioguz ( $74,164 )
Seat 10: shz64 ( $30,175 )
marioguz posts small blind [$3,000]
shz64 posts big blind [$6,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to 888LARX36 [Th][Td]
BIGGERACES48 calls [$6,000]
888LARX36 raises [$27,000]
rickwoody folds
CRAZY_88 folds
marioguz calls [$24,000]
shz64 raises [$24,175]
BIGGERACES48 calls [$24,175]
888LARX36 calls [$3,175]
marioguz calls [$3,175]
** Dealing flop ** [2d][7d][6s]
marioguz checks
BIGGERACES48 bets [$6,000]
888LARX36 raises [$32,953]
marioguz folds
BIGGERACES48 calls [$26,953]
** Dealing turn ** [2s]
** Dealing river ** [As]
** Summary **
BIGGERACES48 shows [Ad][Qd]
888LARX36 shows [Th][Td]
shz64 shows [Qs][9s]
shz64 collected [ $120,700 ]
BIGGERACES48 collected [ $65,906 ]



Got to love the ever reliable river card.

[Garth Kay]

Open shove next time Larx.

Rasing for half your stack is a bit redundant, and you MIGHT fold out those drawy type hands.

[Larx36]

Open shove next time Larx.

Rasing for half your stack is a bit redundant, and you MIGHT fold out those drawy type hands.

Fair point but those guys weren't going anywhere no matter how much i bet pre.

[Garth Kay]

Open shove next time Larx.

Rasing for half your stack is a bit redundant, and you MIGHT fold out those drawy type hands.

Fair point but those guys weren't going anywhere no matter how much i bet pre.

Then fold?

[JMACK007]

Then fold?

Finally!!!!

Seriously, the first time I read the hand, I thought the guy calling you down had Qs9s....and I nearly threw up!!!

[gmatical]

This thread might need a new name if this hand discussion continues