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Queens Arms Bad Beat

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:02 am
by mr_niceguy_1979
Last night at Queens Arms, down to 3 handed. I'm in BB of 4k, I have 21k more in my stack. UTG calls and is left with around 33k, SB folds (has around 8k left). I look down at AJo and push all-in. Happy just to take blinds or double myself up to put myself in a winning position. UTG looks at his watch and says he has to go, as he'd said many times already final table.

He turns over A6 hearts. I'm pretty happy at this point, he needs a 6 or hearts.

Flop comes x x heart. He needs runner runner hearts or a 6 to take down at 52k pot

Turn heart

River, you guessed it, 2 of hearts

That's me gone. 2nd time in 3 weeks out on AJo, my new nemesis hand. Finished in 3rd, at least I didn't get another hat but either venue voucher would have been nice.

I'm thinking maybe I should have limped in or min/3/4xBB raised so that I could have pulled out of the pot and still have chips left, but the raise might have still scared him off. Maybe the 4xBB raise would have scared him off more than the all-in raise? Maybe it wasn't such a good move considering the 3rd player was very short stacked in comparison (she went out the very next hand), and I could have finished in 2nd by just calling/folding. But I guess that's poker once again!

Re: Queens Arms Bad Beat

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:07 am
by BigPete33
"I have to go" should be a verbal, and they should be made to piss off.

Re: Queens Arms Bad Beat

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:08 am
by AceLosesKing
BigPete33 wrote:"I have to go" should be a verbal, and they should be made to piss off.


Agree.

Just last week my pocket Kings were smashed by 2 3h (2 pair) because "he had to go."

Re: Queens Arms Bad Beat

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:46 am
by stevo
My first post, so here goes :)

4xBB may have caused him to fold as he had approached similar plays previously by folding wanting to protect his chips, however with A6 suited my guess is he would still have called. With the rainbow flop would you have pushed all in anyway for the extra 9k? That may have been your chance to take him as at that point he may have folded thinking you had pockets as he had played fairly conservative up to then, although the extra 9k probably wouldn't have pushed him out anyway.

The other thing that may have helped is the 4xBB raise would have avoided the "it's now or never" play which may have caused him to fold, hard to say though as he had kept saying how he needed to go (don't you hate it when people say that!). Although I don't think he needed to go anywhere as he played pretty conservatively for someone that needed to be somewhere else!

Anyway, I reckon you made the right play, he would have called any raise I reckon, AJo heads up is ok and he was trying to limp in, you'd take the call he made most times as you were ahead, it was just a suck out that beat you.

Re: Queens Arms Bad Beat

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:55 pm
by Chelsea4thewin
Ace, 6 suited is a decent hand in 3 handed play, he might of thought u were trying to steal the blinds

just be thankful that didnt happen to u TWO state finals in a row, had pocket kings then the set to have it beaten by runner runner 4 card flush both times