The right move to make?

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The right move to make?

Postby AceLosesKing » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:00 am

Blinds 1000/2000. I have 4000 and am sitting UTG. My table (left from me) consists of the Berri Deepstack winner Matty Finlay, Todd Fullagar, David "Tommo" Thomas (4th in BG region last season) and some new chick.

Next hand I'm in for 50% of my stack. And I don't want to risk that, especially on this table - someone is going to raise and I'm going to have to call with junk. I have Q2 offsuit. I have a picture card, so I push all in. Todd goes over the top. Everyone else folds and he shows KJ offsuit.

I flop the Q and river two pair. Todd is... not pleased, he thinks it was a stupid move. Personally, I thought it was the right move to make.

Thoughts?
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby maccatak11 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:49 am

Yeah it was the right move to make. I would have done the same thing.

The only thing you could have done differently is push 5 hands ago when you might have had 8K in your stack. Then you would have had enough to fold Q2 and get through the blinds.

(i dont know you stack situation, but i always try to let myself not get under 2 big blinds. You KNOW that someone will call you then)
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby Scotty » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:39 am

AceLosesKing wrote:Todd is... not pleased, he thinks it was a stupid move.


Glass houses, Todd ... :D

This scenario is raised and re-raised (pardon the pun) quite often. If you're near the bubble and are the type of person who likes to fold their was to the points etc, you're mucking. (No idea if the above scenario was near a bubble, though)

Me, i'm pushing there most times as well. Had a similar hand at the deepstack late on day one, which had me commiting all my remaining chips with Qd4d, after it had folded round to the button who pushed enough to cover me(in the BB). Didn't hold up, like yours did, but it's the risk i'll take at that stage, more often than not.

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Re: The right move to make?

Postby AceLosesKing » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:39 pm

Matt: In the 3rd session I never went above 6k. I came back to the break with 5500 and folded both my blinds to all ins. Blinds went up and I was (basically) all in next hand.

Scott: We weren't near the bubble, no. In fact, quite a long way off it. We would've had about 24 left.

That hand put Todd on major tilt, and after the hand was over he declared he was "going all in every hand if that's how we're gonna play it." It was my BB and Todd pushes in for 5k. Folded around to me, I look down at Aces. Yep, Aces. I look at Todd and say "I gotta call."

I flip them over, he keeps his cards blind and we run the flop. He needs a Q to win. He looks at both his cards, then mucks. Its a shame cos Todd was playing a really good game up until he went on tilt - and the funny thing is, I could see him making the same move I did (if not earlier).
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby muzzington » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:02 pm

You're so short stacked it doesn't really matter what you do. If you'd rather gamble on this hand rather than the BB hand, then so be it.
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby todd182 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:32 pm

i can speak from experience......being blinded out of going all in blind sucks. if i saw the queen AK i dont think i would of even looked at the other card.

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Re: The right move to make?

Postby Bob B » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:43 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:Blinds 1000/2000. I have 4000 and am sitting UTG. My table (left from me) consists of the Berri Deepstack winner Matty Finlay, Todd Fullagar, David "Tommo" Thomas (4th in BG region last season) and some new chick.

Next hand I'm in for 50% of my stack. And I don't want to risk that, especially on this table - someone is going to raise and I'm going to have to call with junk. I have Q2 offsuit. I have a picture card, so I push all in. Todd goes over the top. Everyone else folds and he shows KJ offsuit.

I flop the Q and river two pair. Todd is... not pleased, he thinks it was a stupid move. Personally, I thought it was the right move to make.

Thoughts?

TODD, thinks everyones move was stupid if it beats his, loses to his, or chop, chops, with his. Todd is an authority on all that is poker, NOT!!:D Don't get me wrong I really like Todd and I also like playing against him.

I haven't read any other posts to your thread but I assume you made the play and had a chance of everyone folding. Or, if you did get a caller then hopefully it was someone like Todd who thinks he has the best cards and must win. :roll:

If that were so, then the two really bad beats I have had with Shreky over the last 2 Kingy weeks should have been mine LOL :oops: But Todd unfortunately forgot the cards are not predictable nor are they only going to allow the best hand preflop to win, all the time. :lol:

Aaron, you play a good game of poker M8 and so does Todd. When it comes down to being blinded out and your only a breath away from either playing any two cards you have or any two cards you choose, then I say take the cards you choose, M8. :P
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby Origami » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:36 am

Bob B wrote:
AceLosesKing wrote:Blinds 1000/2000. I have 4000 and am sitting UTG. My table (left from me) consists of the Berri Deepstack winner Matty Finlay, Todd Fullagar, David "Tommo" Thomas (4th in BG region last season) and some new chick.

Next hand I'm in for 50% of my stack. And I don't want to risk that, especially on this table - someone is going to raise and I'm going to have to call with junk. I have Q2 offsuit. I have a picture card, so I push all in. Todd goes over the top. Everyone else folds and he shows KJ offsuit.

I flop the Q and river two pair. Todd is... not pleased, he thinks it was a stupid move. Personally, I thought it was the right move to make.

Thoughts?

TODD, and I thinks everyones move was stupid if it beats his, loses to his, or

Aaron, most people play you play a good game of poker M8 and so does Todd everyone . When it comes down to being blinded out and your only a breath away from either playing any two cards you have or any two cards you choose, then I say take the cards you choose, M8. :P


with reference to the Title of this thread.....


I think Bob's got the answer/ right idea..


n.b. some players voice the tactic..."I've gota //am go home early ,I'll play go 'allin ' This seems to work as many times as any other stratergy , Think I'll use it more often. :P
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Re: The right move to make?

Postby todd182 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:50 pm

you've prob worked it out its the other todd....you know the good one, not me.

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Re: The right move to make?

Postby rcon » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:25 pm

Yep, right move every time. Only exception might be if you're happy with points, and are on the bubble.

I did something similar with 6c3c from mid position last Thursday. Got under state leaders skin too :-) Poker gods had their revenge tonight tho.
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