What was the best move to make in this hand?

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What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby akust0m » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:35 pm

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, 125/250 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t12140)
SB (t6615)
BB (t19399)
Hero (UTG) (t12350)
UTG+1 (t10554)
MP1 (t39695)
MP2 (t28968)
MP3 (t19325)
CO (t17679)

Hero's M: 20.58

Preflop: Hero is UTG with QImage, QImage
Hero bets t750, 2 folds, MP2 calls t750, 1 fold, CO calls t750, 3 folds

Flop: (t2850) 2Image, 8Image, 5Image (3 players)
Hero bets t2300, MP2 calls t2300, CO raises to t6000, Hero raises to t11575 (All-In), MP2 raises to t28193 (All-In), CO calls t10904 (All-In)

Turn: (t48233) 9Image (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t48233) AImage (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t48233

Results:
Hero had QImage, QImage (one pair, Queens).
MP2 had 8Image, 8Image (three of a kind, eights).
CO had 9Image, 9Image (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO won t48233


Was I destined to lose this hand, or should I have gotten out after I was re-raised? I was putting him/her on A8(unlikely), 99, TT, JJ. Which is why I re-raised all in. Any input on this hand would be greatly appreciated. I hate getting into these situations and risking my tournament life on a single hand so early. I should have paid more attention to the call after my post-flop bet i think.

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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:44 pm

well for one the flat call then the re-raise on the flop would of been ringing the alarm bells, in a three way pot one of them must of hit something to still be in the pot
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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Bacon » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:20 pm

I can't see how you were getting away from it.

The initial raise came from the player you had beat. If you flat-called him there, I think the set might've still raised all-in.

You might've gotten away at this point, but I think you would've been pot committed to call anyway.
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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby AceLosesKing » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:11 pm

Flat the CO raise, then go from there. If there is another raise, one of them ships it in... re-evalutate.

Still hard to fold though, I could see myself putting it in here. Its a $5 tourny. Sucks that MP2 is behind you.
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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Tommo » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:38 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:Flat the CO raise, then go from there. If there is another raise, one of them ships it in... re-evalutate.

Still hard to fold though, I could see myself putting it in here. Its a $5 tourny. Sucks that MP2 is behind you.


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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Garth Kay » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:05 pm

online: Ship it in. Beat ur monitor and move on.

Offline: re evaluate as ALK suggests.

You're destined to lose there. Don't stress.

Read on opponents style would help.
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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Goose » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:08 am

Simple
You were gone the minute the two bigger stacks called your original raise
Its pokerstars and the bigger stack wins 75% of the time. You might have the best starting hand but the bigger stack will win 75% of the time with any 2 cards. (Try doing the stats and you will see what i mean)
QQ vs 88 vs 99. You were always going to lose

Keeping in mind the chip stacks i would have made a similar opening raise from your position or even less just to get a feel of whats to follow.
With 2 callers and after the flop i would have made a similar bet but when the bigger stack re-raised
IM OUTA HERE

The QQ might be looking good after the flop but with a 3x re-raiser alarm bells are telling me something is not right. Plus my any 2 card short stack vs bigger stack theory
I Would Fold

Hard to fold and i would have done the same 8/10 times.
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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby AceLosesKing » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:17 am

Garth Kay wrote:online: Ship it in. Beat ur monitor and move on.

Offline: re evaluate as ALK suggests.

You're destined to lose there. Don't stress.

Read on opponents style would help.


Garth, I do that online/offline thing all the time. So easy to re evaluate a hand when you're not at the table.

Goose wrote:Simple
You were gone the minute the two bigger stacks called your original raise
Its pokerstars and the bigger stack wins 75% of the time. You might have the best starting hand but the bigger stack will win 75% of the time with any 2 cards. (Try doing the stats and you will see what i mean)
QQ vs 88 vs 99. You were always going to lose


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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Goose » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:34 am

On Pokerstars AK i have a theory that no matter what cards the big stack has the shorter stack will lose 75% of the time even with the better starting hand

Just watch some of the hands and see how many times it happens.
It happens too many times to be coincidental
A bigger stack can be beaten and sometimes does but when a players tournament life is at risk and pulls a top 10 hand the bigger stack will suck out with something stupid and your suddenly out of the game thinking why did he even call

As i said just a theory

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Re: What was the best move to make in this hand?

Postby Tommo » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:39 am

i think its an optical illusion, ive seen the big stacks knocking out plenty of SS mainly because they can call an all in or big bet with a draw and hit it, mainly because they have the chips to call. So they do win alot more coz they actually have the chips to see if they connect with their draws.

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