You're a Bunch of Factors

I though it was ok.

8 seater - $2/$2 No-Limit.

Me - Cut Off

Two Limpers, I Limp, so does button. Blinds check. $12 Pot

Flop: [as 5c 10d]

SB: Bets $10.

SB checks, BB Calls, UTG folds and Mid calls. I call and button considers re-raising but flats as well. SB Folds. $52 Pot

Flop: [as 5c 10d] Turn: [6c]

BB & Mid check. I fire $34. Button and BB fold. Mid calls. He has $50 behind. I have $350. $120 pot.

Flop: [as 5c 10d] Turn: [6c] River: [kc]

Mid checks, I insta push all-in. He insta calls and rolls [ks 10c].

I roll .

It was his first hand at the table and proceded to berate me for being a donkey. I thought it was ok. Anyone disagree?

(Before anyone says anything, I know he had no business calling the turn. It wasn't a bad call though considering what I actually had.)

I guess folding pre-flop is the most obvious answer. But i guess if your playing those cards then there is no point folding them if you get a draw or two.

Did you tell him he is a massive dickhole for dnking off half his chips with middle pair and an ace on board?? That was almost worse.

when i saw the flop, i thought it was an a9 story. But why would u be berated for that? So i figured, with u, it was bottom pair, and the big turn bet was to get rid of the flushers. That call by him was bad.

U raising the turn draw, with the ace, i like the play, but i don't make those bets. And i wouldn't call it.

All in all, his calls were way worse than your play.

Yeah, he called the whole way, If he'd raised on the turn and you called, then he'd have case.

Fold pre, def fold flop. You don't even have a club draw on the flop.

Bacon wrote:U raising the turn draw, with the ace, i like the play, but i don't make those bets. And i wouldn't call it.

With the Ace?

And yeah, he should definitely be folding the turn.

AceLosesKing wrote:Fold pre, def fold flop. You don't even have a club draw on the flop.

Bacon wrote:U raising the turn draw, with the ace, i like the play, but i don't make those bets. And i wouldn't call it.

With the Ace?

And yeah, he should definitely be folding the turn.

Representing the Ace I meant.

Not club draw on the flop, but a gutshot.

just look at him and say - "well i won the pot, and you lost it, so who's the donk?"

its a skill game.

AceLosesKing wrote:Fold pre, def fold flop. You don't even have a club draw on the flop.

But I had a gutshot!!!

Seriously though, that wasn't my frame of mind. Not the way I was thinking. I was calling to represent a hand later on. I was smashing the table for the previous 40 mins. I guess I should've put a back story down previously, but I was rushing to get out the door to the Emu.

In the previous 15 hands I'd beaten Q's with [5h 2h] (flopped up and down straight flush draw, turn flush), A's with [6c 5h] (up and down straight draw, turn straight) and 10's with [Ks Kc]. The kings I played exactly the same. Called a raise pre, flat called flop, fired turn. Knew exactly where I was most hands, thought I could outplay most on the table. Worked out ok. I was stacked around $400, max buyin $120. I was pushing my stack as much as possible.

bennymacca wrote:just look at him and say - "well i won the pot, and you lost it, so who's the non-thinking player?"

He's an NPL player, one I've only met recently. I didn't want to push him, no need. That's what I was thinking though.

Bacon wrote:when i saw the flop, i thought it was an a9 story. But why would u be berated for that? So i figured, with u, it was bottom pair, and the big turn bet was to get rid of the flushers. That call by him was bad.

U raising the turn draw, with the ace, i like the play, but i don't make those bets. And i wouldn't call it.

All in all, his calls were way worse than your play.

Why, pray tell, would this be you first line of thought? Is my image that bad?

Bacon wrote:when i saw the flop, i thought it was an a9 story.

More likely, with a thread title like that, it would be a [9c 2c] story.

Bacon wrote:

AceLosesKing wrote:Fold pre, def fold flop. You don't even have a club draw on the flop.

Bacon wrote:U raising the turn draw, with the ace, i like the play, but i don't make those bets. And i wouldn't call it.

With the Ace?

And yeah, he should definitely be folding the turn.

Representing the Ace I meant.

Not club draw on the flop, but a gutshot.

How do you rep a flopped Ace if you're leading a blank turn? If you have an single Ace, you're firing the flop.

bennymacca wrote:just look at him and say - "well i won the pot, and you lost it, so who's the non-thinking player?"

Its actually "Who won the pot?"

Caleb: What are you doing if the turn isn't a club or a 3?