You're a Bunch of Factors

tonights 11pm foundation game

SB
BB 4225 chips
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MP(me) 4475
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LP 4755
B

Me dealt [10c][10h]

^Fold
^Call 50
Me Raise 375
^Fold
^Fold
LP Call 375
B Call 375
SB Fold
BB Call 375
(1575 pot)

Flop
[Qh][10s][Jh]

BB Check
Me Bet 787
LP Raise 4380 (all in)
B Fold
BB Call 3850 (all in)
Me ?

CT

I think most people are pushing here. What hands have you beat on the flop: QQ, JJ, AK. What hands are worse than yours but could be pushed: AQ, AJ, A10, KK, two hearts.

Interesting one this - are you ever folding that flop. Maybe in a CBI event but in a freeroll? Ranges are so huge, I am always pushing a made set.

all or nothing time. In my book you have to call, yep you still can loose to a few hands but you also have heaps of hands covered as well

backs to the wall boys lets play !!!

Edit- keep in mind that im an idiot so who knows whats right here.

trishan wrote:I think most people are pushing here. What hands have you beat on the flop: QQ, JJ, AK. What hands are worse than yours but could be pushed: AQ, AJ, A10, KK, two hearts.

Interesting one this - are you ever folding that flop. Maybe in a CBI event but in a freeroll? Ranges are so huge, I am always pushing a made set.

dont forget K9, 89 as well

i think you can find a fold here. you have lots of chips, there is no real reason that you NEED to be getting it in - you have 80 big blinds. at least one of them should have you beat here.

Sigh loudly and click the call button.

I think you can probably disregard higher sets, as you might have been rr pre, but lets say you call and you find out you are in front, with one player holding [Ah][8h] and the other holding [kc][qd] then you are still dodging sooo many cards for your 10's to hold. If there is ever a case for folding a set, this board is it, but in a freeroll, i would be calling i think.

maccatak11 wrote:I think you can probably disregard higher sets, as you might have been rr pre, but lets say you call and you find out you are in front, with one player holding [Ah][8h] and the other holding [kc][qd] then you are still dodging sooo many cards for your 10's to hold. If there is ever a case for folding a set, this board is it, but in a freeroll, i would be calling i think.

In this rather specific scenario:

TT = 51% equity
A8 = 31% equity
KQ = 17% equity

I am still calling with TT here even if I am the best reader on the planet and have them on these hands.

If you don't want to race against a flush draw whilst holding a set then don't play poker. I know it depends on what stage of the tournament. But I can get it in here without any hesitation.

So I called

LP shows [Qd][Qs]
BB shows [10d][As]
Me shows [10c][10h]

Turn
[Ks]

River

[2d]

LP Set Qs
BB Straight A to 10
Me Set 10s

CT

Hence the sigh before I hit call.

You just know some muppet is going to hit their draw or has slowplayed JJ or QQ pre like some old school nit, to scared to three or four bet in position with a top 5% hand - because "someone will call with any Ace and hit their Ace on the flop!"

yeah thats a "oh fk me, this is gonna suck, i am definitely out here, some idiot is gonna smash me here, i call, AAAAAAAARRRRRRGH"