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2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:01 am
by bennymacca
villain was fairly aggro but hadn't really shown up with rubbish too often. this was 4 handed in the 3.30 late game tonight

***** Cassava Hand History for Game 226847916 *****
$800/$1,600 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 15 09 2009 01:11:52
Tournament #24624303 $3 + $0.30 - Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: villain ( $32,278 )
Seat 3: p1 ( $11,244 )
Seat 5: p2( $26,556 )
Seat 7: hero ( $22,922 )
hero posts small blind [$800]
villain posts big blind [$1,600]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 9s] [6d ]
2 folds
hero calls [$800]
villain checks
** Dealing flop ** [ 2s] [4h] [6s ]
hero checks
villain checks
** Dealing turn ** [ 9d ]
hero bets [$3,200]
villain raises [$6,400]
hero calls [$3,200]
** Dealing river ** [ 8s ]
hero checks
villain bets [$16,000]

hero??? has 14922 left

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:11 am
by AceLosesKing
Cawl.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:56 am
by Garth Kay
Yeah call.

I think you are better served to value bet and block the river, fold to a check raise.

Checking inspires a bet from Villain here, easy to turn a hand with very little showdown value into a river bluff.

I think you just have to call here.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:18 am
by bennymacca
no noone thinks its a fold here?

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:31 am
by Scotty
Garth Kay wrote:I think you are better served to value bet and block the river, fold to a check raise.


+1

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:36 am
by Garth Kay
bennymacca wrote:no noone thinks its a fold here?


As played it's a call. I can't find a fold here, it's a perfect trap only if that river doesn't fall a scare card.

You have to call off here. The min raise on turn reeks of a flopped set or top two from a novice player but this guy I can't see raising the turn on flush draw.

It's a crying call but you have declared him as Agro so he could be overplaying Q9 or K9 as well as firing that river with air considering you played it so weak and passive.

If you are flatting the turn you need to fire a value bet on the river, I personally think check raising on the turn is another good option, make him pay to see the river, but that is read dependant as well.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:38 am
by AceLosesKing
+1

I definitely lead the river here.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:57 am
by maccatak11
Im guessing you folded?

Ill call here. I think he has a 9, and he will probably read you as having paired the flop.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:29 am
by bennymacca
in this hand, i was the villain and i had KQo.

horrible bluffs FTL.

i thought he was fairly weak though, i put him on a single pair of 9s.

i checked the bb instead of raising because i had stolen his sb limps 3 times in the last 5 orbits or so, and i didn't want him to shove.

as played he tanked until his last 2 seconds and made the call. but all in all, i didn't think it was a horrible move.

the check then turn min raise usually works well and gets folds a lot of the time, so when he flatted, i figured he had a pair but was weaker than 2 pair. then the scare card came on the river, so i thought it was a good opportunity to fire again, but it was not to be.

Re: 2 pair, put all in on river on a wet board

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:29 am
by bennymacca
sometimes the lagtard in me jumps out and plays a hand like this :D