AA - Turn decision with K-high board

[trishan]

This is the 4th or 5th hand of a 27-man SnG. Not many reads. Played one hand with him shown in spoiler below to save space.

Spoiler:

PokerStars Game #33886351872: Tournament #202714763, $3.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/11 14:16:02 AEST [2009/10/10 23:16:02 ET]
Table '202714763 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: pyatychh (1725 in chips)
Seat 2: angafa (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: IceSharky (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: Summerstr21 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: tnewcomb04 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Vreeke (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: lumberjack21 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: JamesThurman (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: trishan09 (1305 in chips)
IceSharky: posts small blind 10
Summerstr21: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trishan09 [7d 9d]
tnewcomb04: folds
Vreeke: folds
trishan09 said, "u learn how to play poker 5 minutes ago?"
lumberjack21: folds
JamesThurman: folds
trishan09: calls 20
pyatychh: folds
angafa: folds
IceSharky: calls 10
Summerstr21: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 3s 2c]
IceSharky: checks
Summerstr21: bets 40
trishan09: raises 40 to 80
IceSharky: folds
Summerstr21: calls 40
*** TURN *** [7c 3s 2c] [Qd]
Summerstr21: bets 60
trishan09: calls 60
*** RIVER *** [7c 3s 2c Qd] [9c]
Summerstr21: bets 120
trishan09: calls 120
pyatychh said, "I have set 2"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Summerstr21: shows [4c As] (high card Ace)
trishan09: shows [7d 9d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
pyatychh said, "222"
trishan09 collected 580 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 580 | Rake 0
Board [7c 3s 2c Qd 9c]
Seat 1: pyatychh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: angafa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: IceSharky (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Summerstr21 (big blind) showed [4c As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: tnewcomb04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Vreeke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lumberjack21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JamesThurman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: trishan09 showed [7d 9d] and won (580) with two pair, Nines and Sevens

PokerStars Game #33886468717: Tournament #202714763, $3.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/11 14:20:51 AEST [2009/10/10 23:20:51 ET]
Table '202714763 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: pyatychh (1945 in chips)
Seat 2: angafa (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: IceSharky (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: Summerstr21 (1140 in chips)
Seat 5: tnewcomb04 (1645 in chips)
Seat 6: Vreeke (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: lumberjack21 (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: JamesThurman (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: trishan09 (1460 in chips)
JamesThurman: posts small blind 10
trishan09: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trishan09 [Ah Ac]
pyatychh: folds
angafa: folds
IceSharky: folds
Summerstr21: calls 20
tnewcomb04: folds
Vreeke: folds
lumberjack21: folds
JamesThurman: calls 10
trishan09: raises 60 to 80
Summerstr21: calls 60
JamesThurman: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c Ks]
trishan09: bets 160
Summerstr21: calls 160
*** TURN *** [7h 6c Ks] [8h]
trishan09: bets 400
Summerstr21: raises 500 to 900

trishan09??

[Brett Kay]

Say jam it in, smile, turn off pokerstars, go and see what this reality world is like.

If you win, obviously reality is overrated.

[AceLosesKing]

Seriously, are you ever really folding here? I don't think you are. So its not a worthy discussion.

[maccatak11]

Yeah you can't turn a 'look at how bad i run' thread into a 'hand discussion' thread. Just tell us that some dude hit a running flush to bust your aces, and its thread over.

[Sinitster]

I dont like aces .... every time i jam it all in with them i get stung ...



thats life hey

[trishan]

This is not a bad beat story for the record.

[AceLosesKing]

This is not a bad beat story for the record.

Then why does it matter what you do. You are never folding here, unless villian is like 3/1/2% over 9000 hands. I mean really, are you reading him for a set here? Maybe. Are you content to follow that read and fold? Likely never.

If you're behind, then you pay him off. Take a note and move on.

If you're ahead, standard Aces hand.

[AceLosesKing]

I mean, its not like its a Qh Jh Kh board and you're holding two black Aces.

[bennymacca]

on 2p2, there is a poster that came up with a theorem, the "baluga theorem"

it basically says that you should strongly re-evaluate single pair type hands when facing a turn raise, and i think its extremely good advice.

the board is fairly dry, unless someone is calling with a gutshot here with 9T, which is unlikely.

at this point in time, what do you put him on?

if you shove, what do you expect to call you down.

if you call, what is your plan for the river?


fwiw, i really dont see what you beat besides a bluff, and KhXh.

since you are readless, i think either shoving or folding here is probably ok.

in the heat of battle, i shove probably, but looking at it now, i cant see you beating much really.

[Garth Kay]

After reading the first hand you can't ever fold here.

It's shove time on that turn.

For the record I hate that raise on the turn, sneaky I have hit a set bet. But I still don't think twice about shoving it in here simply because he could be making that play with AQ as villain is truly a lagtard; looking to spew chips.