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Help AK turn spot.

Postby Conspiracy Theorist » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:25 pm

PokerStars Game #34635041323: Tournament #208011153, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/29 14:20:35 AEST [2009/10/28 23:20:35 ET]
Table '208011153 72' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jmump22 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: CHUCKSTER127 (7320 in chips)
Seat 3: LogoSteve (900 in chips)
Seat 4: 3zero4cool5 (2110 in chips)
Seat 5: MarcRx4 (3035 in chips)
Seat 6: ddchyna (2060 in chips)
Seat 7: nwt001 (1705 in chips)
Seat 8: SmokeyStars (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: azza1320 (4930 in chips)
SmokeyStars: posts small blind 15
azza1320: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MarcRx4 [As Kd]
jmump22: folds
CHUCKSTER127: folds
LogoSteve: folds
3zero4cool5: calls 30
MarcRx4: raises 120 to 150
ddchyna: folds
nwt001: folds
SmokeyStars: folds
azza1320: raises 120 to 270
3zero4cool5: folds
MarcRx4: raises 390 to 660
azza1320: calls 390
*** FLOP *** [Td 5s 6h]
azza1320: checks
MarcRx4: bets 810
azza1320: calls 810
*** TURN *** [Td 5s 6h] [8s]
azza1320: bets 210

What do you do here?

Spoiler:
MarcRx4: raises 1355 to 1565 and is all-in
azza1320: calls 1355
*** RIVER *** [Td 5s 6h 8s] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
azza1320: shows [Jc 6s] (a pair of Sixes)
MarcRx4: shows [As Kd] (high card Ace)
azza1320 collected 6115 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6115 | Rake 0
Board [Td 5s 6h 8s 7c]
Seat 1: jmump22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CHUCKSTER127 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby trishan » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:30 pm

I probably don't raise as much pre flop though it isn't terrible. Then when he reraises, I would probably reraise to around 3x his raise or even get it in depending on read on him. C-bet on flop is fine. I fold turn.
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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:34 pm

My first instinct was to shove the turn.

I definitely check back the flop.
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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby trishan » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:34 pm

Just saw results and you cannot really be focused on that in this case. You have to fold the turn methinks unless you have a really good read on player.
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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby trishan » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:36 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:My first instinct was to shove the turn.

I definitely check back the flop.


You are beat by any pocket pair which makes sense and any pair on the board or set. He has a third of his stack commited and that turn bet just looks like he wants you to reraise.
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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby Swanky » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:38 pm

RETRACTED AFTER READING OP PROPERLY


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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:41 pm

trishan wrote:
AceLosesKing wrote:My first instinct was to shove the turn.

I definitely check back the flop.


You are beat by any pocket pair which makes sense and any pair on the board or set. He has a third of his stack commited and that turn bet just looks like he wants you to reraise.


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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby trishan » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:52 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:
trishan wrote:
AceLosesKing wrote:My first instinct was to shove the turn.

I definitely check back the flop.


You are beat by any pocket pair which makes sense and any pair on the board or set. He has a third of his stack commited and that turn bet just looks like he wants you to reraise.


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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:06 pm

when i first read it, i thought pocket pair. i would fold the turn.

preflop, when he 3bets you, you basically min 4bet him. either flat this 3bet, or shove.

basically you inflated the pot preflop, which meant you felt compelled to play the hand as you did.

reading the spoiler, he is just a monkey, cant do much about that. as played, i fold turn. but in general, i probably flat his 3bet preflop, and give up after he calls my cbet on the flop.
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Re: Help AK turn spot.

Postby maccatak11 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:12 pm

bennymacca wrote: but in general, i probably flat his 3bet preflop, and give up after he calls my cbet on the flop.




This. I either flat his 3-bet pre, or shove it pre. OOP it left you in a tough spot because you still have no pair. If you had position it might be different, but i hate playing big pots in this spot with AK.
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