You're a Bunch of Factors

Villain had seen 13/19 flops.

PokerStars Game #35240540837: Tournament #211785921, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/11/12 15:08:27 AEST [2009/11/11 23:08:27 ET]
Table '211785921 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: culehandluke (1655 in chips)
Seat 2: gruzovik666 (1495 in chips)
Seat 3: kolchak111 (890 in chips)
Seat 4: MarcRx4 (1840 in chips)
Seat 5: capt_trip37 (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: Gerry Cash 1 (1540 in chips)
capt_trip37: posts small blind 25
Gerry Cash 1: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MarcRx4 [Ac Jc]
culehandluke: raises 150 to 200
gruzovik666: folds
kolchak111: folds
MarcRx4: raises 400 to 600
capt_trip37: folds
Gerry Cash 1: folds
culehandluke: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Ah]
culehandluke: bets 1055 and is all-in
MarcRx4: ??????????????????

Call or fold.

CT

Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Am I to blame

I'm going to go with yes, yes you are.
Oh, theres actually a HH here?

Conspiracy Theorist wrote:Villain had seen 13/19 flops.

PokerStars Game #35240540837: Tournament #211785921, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/11/12 15:08:27 AEST [2009/11/11 23:08:27 ET]
Table '211785921 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: culehandluke (1655 in chips)
Seat 2: gruzovik666 (1495 in chips)
Seat 3: kolchak111 (890 in chips)
Seat 4: MarcRx4 (1840 in chips)
Seat 5: capt_trip37 (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: Gerry Cash 1 (1540 in chips)
capt_trip37: posts small blind 25
Gerry Cash 1: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MarcRx4 [Ac Jc]
culehandluke: raises 150 to 200
gruzovik666: folds
kolchak111: folds
MarcRx4: raises 400 to 600
capt_trip37: folds
Gerry Cash 1: folds
culehandluke: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Ah]
culehandluke: bets 1055 and is all-in
MarcRx4: ??????????????????

Call or fold.

CT

Spoiler:

MarcRx4: calls 1055
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Ah] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Ah 2h] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
culehandluke: shows [Qh Kc] (a flush, Ace high)
MarcRx4: shows [Ac Jc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
culehandluke collected 3385 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3385 | Rake 0
Board [4h Kd Ah 2h Kh]
Seat 1: culehandluke showed [Qh Kc] and won (3385) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: gruzovik666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kolchak111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MarcRx4 (button) showed [Ac Jc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: capt_trip37 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Gerry Cash 1 (big blind) folded before Flop

LOL.

I don't think so mate. You get your money is SOOOO good and he draws out. What more can you hope for on that flop?

LOL what?

If you don't snap on this flop, then don't 3b.



really?

snap call

flatting pre would also be ok since u have position.

easy call, just got unlucky

Did he raise pre with any of those many hands that he played?

Either way, money went in good, I wouldn't have re-raised unless he raises often with marginal hands, unlucky though.

You got your money in good, but the situation depends on what and where you are playing.

$1-$10 buy in and i snap call, in fact i'd wait for a hand like this or a flopped two pair to trap a player like this,but heres a heads up for you.......If you wanna stay in the tourny (its cost you a big buy-in or you are near the bubble or you need points), STAY AWAY FROM THESE TYPES OF PLAYERS.

You dont have to be a better player, or luckier, to outlast these players, but let someone else take them on or only do it when you are the big stack or well chipped up.

This guys range pre is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

He could have EASILY had K4 or A4 in is range, hell he coulda had 4-9 off and he'd still shove, but do you wanna tango that this guy doesnt hit his 2 pair or trip up? STAY AWAY

And why re-raise a guy you KNOW is gonna call with pissy little AJ?

If you're gonna take him on, FLAT, FLAT, FLAT everything until you have the nuts or next best and trap him.

You cannot play a player like him the way you did, he leaves you no options. You had to put your chips in with top pair, pissy kicker, with a flush and a straight draw already out there against a guy whose hand you have ZERO idea about.

Just another way to look at it.

Yes everyone, a JACK is a PISSY kicker!
I fold AJ until final table every time nowadays*, its cost me the most of any other hand in its "range". Check your own stats and you'll see you should stay away from it also.


*(unless i have MASSIVE stacks, good reads on everyone and table control)

One more thing.....

If this were a cash game or a hand at the casino i couldnt get my chips in quick enough.
Because if i bust out, i'll just re-buy.

But it still amazes me how people wanna race for their tourny lives with AJ off.

Thats one of the things i love about poker, same game technically, but different scenarios mean one day you fold a hand and the next day you play the hell out of the exact same cards, you just gotta learn what to do at each given time and thats why this game takes sooo long to master.

Ban Todd for quadruple posting IMO.