You're a Bunch of Factors

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PokerStars Game #35289732059: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2009/11/13 20:34:55 AEST [2009/11/13 4:34:55 ET]
Table 'Heike' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DeMaHa948 ($17.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Wyse ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: trishan09 ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 4: kostailiev ($15 in chips)
Seat 5: davebosch ($36.70 in chips)
Seat 6: lucima10 ($24.75 in chips)
trishan09: posts small blind $0.10
kostailiev: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to trishan09 [Ks As]
davebosch: folds
lucima10: folds
DeMaHa948: folds
Wyse: folds
trishan09: raises $0.75 to $1
kostailiev: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [3s Js Qh]
trishan09: bets $1.30
kostailiev: raises $2.20 to $3.50
trishan09: calls $2.20
*** TURN *** [3s Js Qh] [Kc]

trishan09?? (Remaining Stack: $8.30)

Easy 4b/shove on this flop. Look to get it all in ASAP.

Raise to 75c pre BvB.

/thread.

As played, now you're in a tough spot. We have TPTK yes, but there are many two pair combinations out there, and our FE is gone because we flatted the flop. I don't think you get anything worse to call your all in here on the turn, a lot of the time you're only drawing to spades/a ten (maybe a few counterfeit outs against QJ).

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,288 games 0.005 secs 457,600 games/sec

Board: Qs Js 3c Kh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.703% 29.33% 05.38% 671 123.00 { AsKs }
Hand 1: 65.297% 59.92% 05.38% 1371 123.00 { JJ+, 33, AKs, ATs, KJs+, QJs, AKo, ATo, KJo+, QJo }

I suggest c/c the turn and re-evaluating on the river.

yeah shove that shit on the flop. easiest shove ever.

but yeah, not that you flatted, you are in a bit of a tough spot.

you have around 8 behind, pot is 9. usually i just shove it in here because i spazz out in these scenarios.

aaron, re cant check call and re-evaluate river, our stack isn't big enough.

so its check and hope to get it checked through, or just shove.

but either way, i cant see how we fold this now.

so its check and get it all in, or just shove. i personally like the check/shove line, because he might try and take the pot away, or alternatively he might check through and let us hit the nuts

AK's in the SB? He gonna RAISE!

bennymacca wrote:aaron, re cant check call and re-evaluate river, our stack isn't big enough.

so its check and hope to get it checked through, or just shove.

You are correct sir, I missed that (haphazardly posted reply while working).

Also this.

Outcome:

trishan wrote:Outcome:I shoved turn he snap calls with QJ and I don't suck out FML. He's calling a flop shove here too.

This is what you want.

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990 games 0.063 secs 15,714 games/sec

Board: Qs Js 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.747% 44.75% 00.00% 443 0.00 { AsKs }
Hand 1: 55.253% 55.25% 00.00% 547 0.00 { QcJd }


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The money has to go in on the flop.

AceLosesKing wrote:

trishan wrote:Outcome:I shoved turn he snap calls with QJ and I don't suck out FML. He's calling a flop shove here too.

This is what you want.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

990 games 0.063 secs 15,714 games/sec

Board: Qs Js 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.747% 44.75% 00.00% 443 0.00 { AsKs }
Hand 1: 55.253% 55.25% 00.00% 547 0.00 { QcJd }


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The money has to go in on the flop.

yeah this is why u get it in on the flop. great equity even if they flop a monster