Tough Spot with AQ

[bennymacca]

no bonafide reads, but the table had been pretty aggressive, lots of 3betting pre and squeezing

villain was 19/17 with a 3bet of 5% over around 70 hands.

i think that when he raises turn here, his range is really polarised. he almost never has AK here, or even AJ for that matter, its either a set or something like JJ/TT that decided to spazz out, or complete air.

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yourefukinout ($76.85)
DownfallFA ($50)
bennymacca6 ($64.20)
iron_chris ($70.45)
-Clover987 ($50)
oOGammaOo ($56.65)

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DownfallFA posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to bennymacca6 Ah Qd
bennymacca6 raises to $1.75
fold,
-Clover987 raises to $5.50
fold, fold, fold,
bennymacca6 calls $3.75
FLOP ($11.75) As 7s 4h
bennymacca6 checks (i was going to check raise here, i wanted him to continue with worse pairs).
-Clover987 checks
TURN ($11.75) As 7s 4h 7c
bennymacca6 bets $8
-Clover987 raises to $20
bennymacca6 ???

[Origami]

no bonafide reads, but the table had been pretty aggressive, lots of 3betting pre and squeezing

villain was 19/17 with a 3bet of 5% over around 70 hands.

i think that when he raises turn here, his range is really polarised. he almost never has AK here, or even AJ for that matter, its either a set or something like JJ/TT that decided to spazz out, or complete air.

http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#16024663202

yourefukinout ($76.85)
DownfallFA ($50)
bennymacca6 ($64.20)
iron_chris ($70.45)
-Clover987 ($50)
oOGammaOo ($56.65)

yourefukinout posts (SB) $0.25
DownfallFA posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to bennymacca6 Ah Qd
bennymacca6 raises to $1.75
fold,
-Clover987 raises to $5.50
fold, fold, fold,
bennymacca6 calls $3.75
FLOP ($11.75) As 7s 4h
bennymacca6 checks (i was going to check raise here, i wanted him to continue with worse pairs).
-Clover987 checks
TURN ($11.75) As 7s 4h 7c
bennymacca6 bets $8
-Clover987 raises to $20
bennymacca6 ???

FOLD....

early or late in game ?
in or outa the monies ?

[maccatak11]

It's a ring game Bruce.

But yeah tough spot. I don't know how many 7's are in his range here, but 44 probably is, as well as pocket pairs. Soo your not really behind much. Your flop check looks like you missed as most would expect a c-bet if you had hit your ace, but with the size of his stack (he has ~half in already) i think gotta fold here, or play a $100 pot.

If i was him i would probably put you on a medium pair like 88 or 99 (bet pre, check ace board and fire turn after i check behind), but i guess if he was slow playing anything A7/44/(AA??) his play fits that line too.

So your right that your either crushed, or way good. but i think i get it in here.

[bennymacca]

he 3bet me pre, so he is the one that should be cbetting.

my thinking was that if he 3bets me pre, then i lead into him on the flop, especially an A74 flop, then i pretty much always have an ace. and then he checks behind, i dont think he has AK, because surely he would fire that.

so we are left with things like 88-KK, and a slow played aces, 77,44, maybe something like AT that didn't wanted to try and keep the pot small.

[Garth Kay]

You definitely don't donk bet here. Let him lead the action on the flop.

I would say you need to get it in here. But it is a terrible spot to be in.

If I were in your shoes I re jam that turn bet and play for stakes.

[Garth Kay]

It's a ring game Bruce.

But yeah tough spot. I don't know how many 7's are in his range here, but 44 probably is, as well as pocket pairs. Soo your not really behind much. Your flop check looks like you missed as most would expect a c-bet if you had hit your ace, but with the size of his stack (he has ~half in already) i think gotta fold here, or play a $100 pot.

If i was him i would probably put you on a medium pair like 88 or 99 (bet pre, check ace board and fire turn after i check behind), but i guess if he was slow playing anything A7/44/(AA??) his play fits that line too.

So your right that your either crushed, or way good. but i think i get it in here.

Forget 44 and any 7, if he has anything it is JJ+ or AK.

I am pretty sure he checks the flop with AA. I am loathe to lay this down but you are ahead of 60% of his range. But the c/r turn scares me a lot.

I think you hit a cooler benny the cunt and that's the case A on the flop?? That's the only hand I can see as 3 bet pre, check the flop and then raise the turn. Especially with villains stats.

After thinking properly, it hurts me to do so, but I don't think my AQ is good in this spot.

[bennymacca]

I think you hit a cooler benny the cunt and that's the case A on the flop?? That's the only hand I can see as 3 bet pre, check the flop and then raise the turn. Especially with villains stats.

spot on garth!!!!

he had aces and i was dead as a doornail.

but i wasn't too worried, i think i played it ok in general. i didn't think he was ever 3betting anything with a 7 or a 4 in it, and i discounted AK because i thought he would prolly cbet anyway with that.

so that left slow played aces and high PPs.


cant see myself laying that down though. i think he spazzes with QQ/KK often enough here thinking we dont have an ace.

[bennymacca]

thinking about it, what else doesn't fire that flop that beats me?

if he was any sort of decent player, and i had no reason to suspect otherwise, then if he had 77 or 44, he would definitely fire the flop.

aces are the only hand that can check back that has me crushed i think. i really dont see him checking back AK here, but if someone does this, then its well played obv.


am i good enough to put someone on specifically aces and lay that down? not yet im not.

[trishan]

cant see myself laying that down though. i think he spazzes with QQ/KK often enough here thinking we dont have an ace.

That's what I would have said. Garth you are freak...

[trishan]

I think you hit a cooler benny the cunt and that's the case A on the flop?? That's the only hand I can see as 3 bet pre, check the flop and then raise the turn. Especially with villains stats.

Check the flop even with two spades?