What's hot- what's not

[BigPete33]

I'll just dive in here quickly and suggest that if you haven't already read all the previous posts on this topic it's a great idea to do so

[FYTSolo]

My suggestion is only trying to give a fair go for everybody. I am not trying to change the system, as you said rewarding players in the current format is driving great numbers to show up, and this is great for the NPL. All I am suggesting is that players with strong averages be recognized for there efforts as well. I dont believe my suggestion is disadvantaging anybody.

[AceLosesKing]

I don't care about how the state leaderboard is affected, I'm nowhere near it (ok, just checked, 80th). Even if I was, the best 15 game system NPL have bought in is great. I love that each region has picked it up too, if you want to be the number 1 in your region, you've got to do well over 15 games. Taking your best 15 games is fair to everyone (if you've got the time to play them, and lets be honest, if you can't, too bad. Either give up on work/family and go play, or don't, and stop whinging).

Rewarding players that play more games is how a pub poker competition should be run.

[Garth Kay]

So what is the recognition you seek for a "true" leaderboard?
Hypothetically speaking, if I was to implement a leaderboard of averages across all games I would make the minimum amount of games to be played 20. So therefore all players would still be required to play 2 games/week.
I would like to add that those players currently in the State top 50 have multiple top 5 placings at venues except for 8 individuals. So we better not go down the "they don't deserve to be there" path.

[Garth Kay]

That last comment was for you Pete, I like your restraint at this time, I could just imagine you tearing at the bit to flame up again!
And ALK I have new found respect for you. Great comment.

[Luke05(Jamo)]

I don't care about how the state leaderboard is affected, I'm nowhere near it (ok, just checked, 94th). Even if I was, the best 15 game system NPL have bought in is great. I love that each region has picked it up too, if you want to be the number 1 in your region, you've got to do well over 15 games. Taking your best 15 games is fair to everyone (if you've got the time to play them, and lets be honest, if you can't, too bad. Either give up on work/family and go play, or don't, and stop whinging).

Rewarding players that play more games is how a pub poker competition should be run.

agreed i think i play my fair share of games. i think i am nerly at 1 a day lol

[cush]

So what is the recognition you seek for a "true" leaderboard?
Hypothetically speaking, if I was to implement a leaderboard of averages across all games I would make the minimum amount of games to be played 20. So therefore all players would still be required to play 2 games/week.
I would like to add that those players currently in the State top 50 have multiple top 5 placings at venues except for 8 individuals. So we better not go down the "they don't deserve to be there" path.

I see leaderboards like the Formula 1 Championship. There's x number of rounds in a season. If Lewis Hamilton can't turn up for a race, because he's got homework to do, he doesn't get any points. And may (or not) move down the leaderboard.

The sort of people that are interested in being on the Leaderboard are the sort of people that WILL play 10 games (per venue) per season, so aren't affected.. and reap the rewards for their loyalty by generally having a higher total score..

They're called leader boards for a reason.. they imply that one competitor is better than another...

it's not a PlayTheMostaboard.....

[FYTSolo]

Wow, what a response! I am doing well on overall averages, at least in the top five of one venue I am playing at, and therefore have nothing to gain from my suggestions. The thing that bothers me, and I am sure to get heckled over this is I believe the current system will let some of the strongest players miss out on a finals opportunity. I would like to compete against the best possible competition in the NPL at all times. A lot of us don't always get the time to do so, and for someone to suggest that we/I give up on work/family committments to play more poker is very irresponsible and naive.
I dont want to get into a slinging match with anybody, so please keep your responses reasonable.

[Garth Kay]

You haven't read the previous posts have you cush?
So your saying that if a player plays all ten games at a venue level and finishes on top with the most points they are not deserved of it because someone who only played five games had better average than them?
I'm a little but confused by your argument? It's been this way for the last three seasons, and even longer in other states. And we have played this season exactly the same way for the past 8 weeks, why now does it occur to people that they should offer some constructive criticism?

Ok, so what exactly are we looking to change? The venue leaderboard system based on average?

[Garth Kay]

FYTsolo.
I think you will find that the majority (99%) of consistently strong players will achieve an entry into State Finals through a venue leaderboard. There are no sure ways to judge who is a strong player, as I quite honestly think that playing through a field of 40 in one venue can show greater skills than coming first in a field of 100 in another venue. The general poker skills of the populace change from venue to venue, region to region. Trust me on this, ask any TD who works multiple regions and they can tell you this as well.
If a player does exceedingly well in a region does mean that they are a strong player but if we put them in a crowd of 80 relatively strong players form different regions then what happens, I could go on all day about playing against the same competition and what not.
At NPL we are not all about the poker, we are about creating another social outlet and introducing poker to the masses we do not seek to find the best poker player in SA, we seek to educate new players and improve the skills of those established poker players whilst creating a fun social atmosphere. There is only one day every 10 weeks when we seek to find the best player in the state, and that is state finals day.
And even then you can argue that the winner may or may not be the best player in the state.