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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby Garth Kay » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:51 am

NotHappy wrote:Oh no what have I started.... But seriously, if 888 (not au) wanted to obied by Australian law then none of us would be playing there.


Sigh.

888 is an multi national organisation listed on the London Stock Exchange; and as such is based out of London and has offices in Gibraltar and Israel. And as such is not governed by Australian gaming regulations.

Sportsbetting on the other hand is an entirely different kettle of fish and for you to offer Australian residents your sportsbetting services you must hold an Australian or State based sports betting license. And therefore you are governed by Australian gaming regulations.
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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby NotHappy » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:23 am

Sigh.. Like I said, if they (888 UK) wanted to obied by Australian Law, which as you pointed out they don't have to because they're not in Australia, we wouldn't be playing there. The ID requirement checks are nothing to do with Australian Law but are just their own processes. Don't expect any law enforcement agency in Australia to provide you with any help should something suspect happen either to your documents, or any money in your account. This applies not only to poker of course but anytime you deal with overseas companies.

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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby bennymacca » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:28 am

NotHappy wrote:Sigh.. Like I said, if they (888 UK) wanted to obied by Australian Law, which as you pointed out they don't have to because they're not in Australia, we wouldn't be playing there. The ID requirement checks are nothing to do with Australian Law but are just their own processes. Don't expect any law enforcement agency in Australia to provide you with any help should something suspect happen either to your documents, or any money in your account. This applies not only to poker of course but anytime you deal with overseas companies.


ok, so there is a simple solution. if you dont want to give them your documents, then just dont play. easy fixed.

im constantly amazed by people that like complaining about things like this, that to be honest, are pretty reasonable
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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby Garth Kay » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:55 am

NotHappy wrote:Sigh.. Like I said, if they (888 UK) wanted to obied by Australian Law, which as you pointed out they don't have to because they're not in Australia, we wouldn't be playing there. The ID requirement checks are nothing to do with Australian Law but are just their own processes. Don't expect any law enforcement agency in Australia to provide you with any help should something suspect happen either to your documents, or any money in your account. This applies not only to poker of course but anytime you deal with overseas companies.


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Firstly it's abide not obied.

Secondly what would you like to see happen? No ID verification, anyone can play, multi accounting is fine?
Australian law requires a lot more in the form of ID checks than what 888 are requesting and I strongly suggest that you try opening a TAB account or any other Australian based sports betting or gaming account and see what ID they require.

Up until now I have been quite reasonable but I am unsure now of what your point is? What do you want to happen, what can I possibly do that I haven't done already.

Further to the above I have been in contact with 888 management and they are aware of this thread and the answers that have been supplied here are some of their pertinent points:

1.) Communications need to come from CASSAVA as that is the company that holds the license; and because it is the company that appears on transactions it is generally LESS confusing for the customer when an ID check is requested.

2.) With Money transfers and Pay and Play deposits they are legally required to verify age after a set period of time. Age cannot be verified through these methods as they would through other deposit methods.

3.) Don't forget the ashes freeroll series, 1c buy in for a $1,000 prize pool, every Saturday night!

4.) My answers and responses from others in here are correct and adequate.

5.) Not everyone will be happy with the process and they understand that.
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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby John Miller » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:03 pm

Welcome to the forum nothappy :( ...

These things are set in stone, so sorry to say to will have to supply the articles as requested or not, and learn to get along without the benefit of playing 888 online poker.

I along with the many of the players here have had to do the same.

I have never had any junk mail or phishing scam from suppling these details, just send it and get back to building points to grab some FREE stuff from 888PL, (GF tickets, cash, prizes).

Looking forward to playing with you.
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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby Adam Hancock » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:07 pm

666HARPS666 wrote:But thats it Brett .
The I.D , i provided 888 was not accepted by them .
I need a J.P, or Court Doco... to get my account opened again .
Where as this was only given away to 888pl players for those 3 nights

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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby 666HARPS666 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:40 pm

lol @ Adam ,
I was showing example , Of how you need different I.D, for things . The I.d, I had sent to 888 to get back in was not excepted by sportsbet .@ crown last week none of the I.D, I carry was excepted , The only way I got to be a member of crown was I had signed up in the early 90's , & crown being crown still had me on record .

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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby Garth Kay » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:56 pm

666HARPS666 wrote:lol @ Adam ,
I was showing example , Of how you need different I.D, for things . The I.d, I had sent to 888 to get back in was not excepted by sportsbet .@ crown last week none of the I.D, I carry was excepted , The only way I got to be a member of crown was I had signed up in the early 90's , & crown being crown still had me on record .

sorry for confusion


TRANSLATION:

I was just presenting another example of a gaming related company that requested ID, but furthermore the ID proof required by 888 was not good enough for this Australian based company. The ID I provided to 888 was not accepted by Sportsbet as a legitamite form of proof of Identification.

I was at Crown last week and had no ID on me for registration into a tournament. In the early nineties you had to be a member of Crown to gamble on their properties, and Crown being the large organisation they are still had my details in their systems from when I first became a member over 15 years ago!

Is that about right Harps?
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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby 666HARPS666 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:58 pm

lol Garth , thats it Sir


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Re: WTF? Account disabled!

Postby NotHappy » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:05 pm

All I wanted to know was if there was anything 888pl could do so I didn't have to send all those documents (re-read my first post). The simple answer was No which I accepted. All the rest were just comments and observations, no demands. All the other Expressions Of Interest by other parties were to relate their similar experiences, thats it.


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