You're a Bunch of Factors

I'm bored so how about some discussion

NPL does a fantastic job, the only problems I have seen occur usually seem to revolve around inconsistency of the rules.

Two things I have seen recently;

First. Using passports when a player is knocked out and they are not filled out. Though this has been frowned upon, I still see this too often and its just wak. The only time its happened to ME, was copping a horrendous runner runner beat to get knocked out FIRST in a venue (that i went on to win overall ironically), then realising I hadnt filled my card up and was out. I didnt think of running to the bar, i took it like a man and ran off to tell the TD my horror bad beat story like a true NPL player!
Yet, time and time agian I have to deal with knocking someone out and then they have a totally empty card and run to the bar to fill it up , even holding up the game, and then back in... grrr. Even seen TDs agree to this (sometimes because the player might for example be an every night player). Just annoying.

Other thing i'd like clarified is the time to the break and when another hand should be played. I used to be that as long as the blinds were out then a hand is played before going to break. Very clear cut. Now i'm getting TDs saying nah go to break now when there is still a minute on the clock? well we dont want to do that so we get a cheap blind so we want to play. but no , told to go on a break. Which is it? you cant have iot both ways and many people were annoyed as half the table was off and other half wanted to play.

Oh and one thing that was bad initally but now better is TDs holding up the game (by pausing the break)cos of smoking! jesus! go kill yourself on your own watch!

please discuss.

Thanks G I'd love to

I've personally never seen a TD let a player fill their card up and then come back and cash it in. I'd go nucking futs if I did, I can assure you. I have seen the TD allow it when the player has quite clearly ordered via table service some time ago and the only reason he's not holding a full card is cos the table service is taking a zillion years. The very few times I've seen this, the entire table has happily agreed that yes it's really not the players fault and they have in fact been waiting ages, and already paid for their drink.


I've noticed a bit of variance in when last hand is called too. TD discretion probably comes into it there as to when they actually call it - there's a clear ruling on when a hand has started, download the rulebook and have a gander. Completely agree on the cancer stick thing tho - wait till the break and like it.

BigPete33 wrote:I've noticed a bit of variance in when last hand is called too. TD discretion probably comes into it there as to when they actually call it - there's a clear ruling on when a hand has started, download the rulebook and have a gander.

i had a look a cant find anything, i think thats the problem, there doesnt seem to be a ruling on when the last and before a break should start. or is there?

Once the cards are riffled at least once constitutes an new hand.

However it is up to the TD discretion on calling breaks, I personally call the break 1-2 minutes before the break actually begins so I may begin the chip up as quick as possible. That gives the players a few minutes to ask the ever repeating questions

"Can I still redeem my cards?"
"Do I put it underneath my stack?"
"I don't want to sound dumb, but........"

Also I don't find that this is an incredibly strict thing nor does it need to be, if the cards are riffled and the blinds are out, and we have been on break for 2 min already ill still tell the table to leave for break.

As for TD's allowing players to go all in and run to the bar, this should not be on... AT ALL! I don't do it, and all the TD's I socialize with don't do it either.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,
Zemond

G__ wrote:Yet, time and time agian I have to deal with knocking someone out and then they have a totally empty card and run to the bar to fill it up , even holding up the game, and then back in... grrr.

This is one of my pet hates too!!
Bugged me to the point of asking Garth to change the wording in the rule book.
The new version (when posted) will read " a player must have a fully stamped card before announcing ALL IN to stay in the tourny"
Not the exact words....but you get my drift. I'll be the first to enforce this one, trust me!!

G__ wrote:
Other thing i'd like clarified is the time to the break and when another hand should be played. I used to be that as long as the blinds were out then a hand is played before going to break. Very clear cut. Now i'm getting TDs saying nah go to break now when there is still a minute on the clock? well we dont want to do that so we get a cheap blind so we want to play. but no , told to go on a break.

I'm guilty of this. But seriously guys....how long does it take for you people to leave a room. The chip up starts when the last person leaves which means instead of having 15 mins to do a chip up I now have 8 or 9mins. The slower you guys are the more of your blind time I shall be taking.

Same goes for calling people back into play after a break. 5 mins to sit down so we can do a draw is a waste of my time and yours if I choose not to stop the clock.
Really, is finishing 1 min earlier really that bad????

Maybe you should get quicker at chipping up the tables there Plucka.


EDIT....

Ouch!!

I dont smoke so I'll use my allotted time thanks Andre

Then there's the gummy leg to consider hmmmm!!

Nah....you're right. I'll make sure I'm quicker when I'm chipping up your table mate

plucka wrote:Ouch!!

I dont smoke so I'll use my allotted time thanks Andre

Then there's the gummy leg to consider hmmmm!!

Nah....you're right. I'll make sure I'm quicker when I'm chipping DOWN your table mate

I fixed your post Dazza

Well if it's my table, I'll walk it home after next weeks game!

You could just guess wildly and just chip everyone to 6k regardless of what their stack was at the time.




EDIT: Just incase someone takes it the wrong way <and I'm looking at you Dave> I'm purely having a good old ribbing at Plucka's expense! Not being aggro at the team cripple at all! I shall insert some smiley's.... all good!