NFL on 10 HD

[bennymacca]

to be honest, i think the severity of the hits between AFL and NFL are pretty similar. the difference is that the NFL dudes seem to run head on into the other player because they have the headgear to protect them. its more like a head on charge than a tackle or a bump.

i found this video which is pretty interesting. good to see the NFL blokes go flying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUhXj-BiU7w


still, the biggest hit i have ever seen was mark ricciuto on dean kemp.

fast forward to the 1:30 mark of this one to see the bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVmSyE-yr18

[Scotty]

Roo's hit on Kemp is still one of my favourite footy moments.

Was also in Geelong for the game they show near the end, with Roo kicking three goals in the last quarter to get us over line by three points.

[Matty Norwood]

just wanted to post something about a show that i watched on tv before i went on holiday. They measured the the pressure of both a rugby tackle and a gridiron hit

The rugby tackle measured 1688 pounds per square inch

the gridiron tackle measure 4022 pounds per square inch (the equivelent of a 35 mile per hour car crash). This was also delivered by a corner back which is one of the smallest players on the field.

But that doesnt tell the true tale

The reason that the gridiron player is able to produce so much power is the intent of the hit and also the shoulder pads and helmet allowing a lot of recklessness.

Now here is the main point what the shoulder pads do is disperse the energy throughout a wider range of the body where as a rugby tackle the pressure is dispersed only in the point of contact.

Now the soulder pads are big but apart from that the rest of the body is pretty well unprotected so imgaine that force with hard plastic or a steel grill hitting into you.

And benny the cunt as far the tackling goes what you see on you tube are the spectacular open field hits, their is a lot of skill involved in a correct gridiron form tackle as because if you dont do it correctly the ball carrier can simply bounce off

[Matty Norwood]

to be honest, i think the severity of the hits between AFL and NFL are pretty similar. the difference is that the NFL dudes seem to run head on into the other player because they have the headgear to protect them. its more like a head on charge than a tackle or a bump.

i found this video which is pretty interesting. good to see the NFL blokes go flying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUhXj-BiU7w

in case you dont know the first hit is actually sav rocca getting laid out in his first nfl game

[bennymacca]

good post matty

the one question i have, is where was the pressure measured on the players?

you say that the pressure is more in NFL, but then in the next part you say that the pressure is dispersed over a larger area.

[Scotty]

All this talk about which sport has the biggest tackles/hits/impact etc etc etc.

We all know that CRICKET leads the way .... (warning: may contain nudity)

[Matty Norwood]

All this talk about which sport has the biggest tackles/hits/impact etc etc etc.

We all know that CRICKET leads the way .... (warning: may contain nudity)

Think roy may got a few contract offers after that one!!!

[Matty Norwood]

good post matty

the one question i have, is where was the pressure measured on the players?

you say that the pressure is more in NFL, but then in the next part you say that the pressure is dispersed over a larger area.

The players used in the rugby test were using one of those sensored vests which recorded the data and was then uploaded to a computer program. The guy who drew the short straw was deliberately thrown a hospital pass and tackled at full spped by a defender who was the regulation 5 meters away (union)

The gridiron test was done using a crash test dummy on a slide which had all sensors under the padding and the player (Quentin Jammer) was in game simulation so had a round an 8 yard run up before contact.

There was a computer simulation of the effects of both hits showing the compression of the sternum and ribs, cant remember the exact figures but in the rugby tackle the sernum was compresed more than the gridiron and only the bottom 2 ribs dispersed the energy, where as the gridiron hit was dispersed thoughout the entire the rib cage.

Wish i had taped it because it was damn interesting, it was shown on 10HD it also showed that the most dangerous ball in the world is a cricket ball.

[bennymacca]

ok, so the moral of the story is that the gridiron players hit the other players with more energy, but this is dispersed through a greater area of their body than the union players. but the reason they hit harder is because they have extra protection afforded to them through helmets and shoulder pads.

i wonder how this compares to an AFL hip and shoulder, which is a different technique again. i suspect that the AFL one might be worse as far as pressure goes, because the player bumps the other player with the shoulder and arm only. (pressure is force per unit area, and the area is obviously lower)

especially in the case of something like ricciuto's bump on kemp where it was roo's shoulder into kemp's head.

interesting discussion though

[BigPete33]

I don't see how they can even be compared, it's different sports wearing different gear and tackling differently.

Tennis and golf are ball sports too (but those are for the ladies)