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4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:01 pm
by Scotty
This is basically a whinge at the DL system.

When a team is chasing a score, and the target/overs remaining is reduced because of this, the number of wickets lost becomes a factor in determining the adjusted figures.

Now, we rolled NZ for 238 in the 1st innings. No delays to that point. So, normally we'd be chasing a run rate of 4.78 per over for victory.

The rain then comes down, resulting in the loss of about an hour's play - and the adjusted target for us to chase - bearing in mind we have not lost any wickets - is 200 from 34 overs. The new run rate required is 5.88 per over. Is it just me, or is that going against the trend of the way the DL system has been calculated in recent years?

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:03 pm
by bennymacca
the less overs you have to bat, the more (in terms of required run rate) they expect you to chase.

i dont really see a problem with it.

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:07 pm
by Scotty
Yeah, it just seems to me like we've been penalised around the same as NZ were in the other game, even though their innings had commenced and they'd already lost 3 wickets early.

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:12 pm
by bennymacca
yeah, but how many overs did they have left to bat that time?

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:19 pm
by David
If there's less overs, and you still have 10 wickets, then the Req RR HAS to go up..

If teams have less overs to bat, the run rate invariably goes up - as is proven in T20..

I know it doesn't seem fair but they did go through a lot of games and stats to work out how games flow to work out what is right.
They've got it pretty right I reckon, considering they still use a formula.

I remember years ago when Pakistan were playing England...
Pakistan (?) needed 22 off 7 balls.... then it rained.

When they came out, they needed 22 of 1 ball.

Numbers/teams might not be accurate but it's close enough.



If the delay was when it was today... and they just reduced the target to be the same Req RR, it's too much of an advantage for the team batting second.

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:00 pm
by Scotty
A moot point in the end - we smashed 'em anyway :)

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:42 pm
by maccatak11
David wrote: I remember years ago when Pakistan were playing England...
Pakistan (?) needed 22 off 7 balls.... then it rained.

When they came out, they needed 22 of 1 ball.


22 off one ball was correct. i think south africa was involved though.

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:43 pm
by David
True, could've been RSA.
But i'm sure it was Pakistan?

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:48 pm
by maccatak11
im probably wrong. too lazy to google atm lol.

Re: 4th ODI - Aus v NZ

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:59 pm
by Scotty
It was South Africa vs England, 92 World Cup.