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Sportsmanship

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:50 pm
by Nevah play JJ
Lastnight I was playing at one of the venues out here in the south and saw a very unsporting act.

However take into account I see several unsporting acts each and every time I play, but this just made me want to get a discussion going in regards to sportsmanship on the table.

Example 1
Thursday night, one bloke made a raise on an initial bet, his mate at the table reraised this bet and he chose to see the bet which put him all in.

The person who initially raised lost the hand and I am not sure about the actual hand itself but he was knocked out.

He then proceeded to THROW his chips across the table and on to the floor walk up to his mate, have a few words, then proceeded to splash his drink on him.

I don't understand why this person shouldn't be banned for a few weeks.
Apprently he is known for his temper tantrums.. but does that mean he should be forgiven yet again for his unsporting behaviour??




Example 2
A player that is a notorious bluffer, goes all in again raising on a blind.

Another player that is a tight and a very good player, decides to also go all in with a pretty good hand.

At the end of the hand, the 2nd player wins and takes the pot with a straight, the first player then proceeds to throw his chips across the table.




Again, where is the sportsmanship? As far as I am concerned if your beaten your beaten, it isn't anyones fault! It is the fall of the cards and it is up to the card gods

To be honest I do get annoyed by being beaten, when I think I have a good hand, but I always say good hand or well played to the person who beats me.

I just believe we are adults and need to act like a sport, accept our losses and move onto the next hand.

Just wondering what other players thoughts in relation to this kind of behaviour are.

Thanks for reading.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:56 pm
by Bob B
Hi there Neva, you should really bring this one to Garths attension as it's not what NPL are about. Did the TD get involved in any way?

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:05 pm
by Nevah play JJ
Hi Bob,

So nice to hear from you. :)

No, it was early in the night when it was very busy.

His mate didn't want to make an issue of it.
But I have seen this bloke treat his mate terribly a few times. It is not up to me to dictate the terms of his friendship and I don't think it is unreasonable to see a certain level of behaviour from other players (who are supposed adults, which is at times debatable).

I just think it is something we as players should not have to be around. I go to play and have a bit of fun and learn. Not to watch behaviour like that.

However I don't want to appear to be a dibberdobber, who runs to the TD everytime someone acts like a tool.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:48 pm
by Scotty
Nevah play JJ wrote: Apprently he is known for his temper tantrums.. but does that mean he should be forgiven yet again for his unsporting behaviour??


Of course not. Not having the ability or social awareness to manage your own behaviour doesn't give you the right to repeatedly act like a ****head.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:48 am
by David
Scott wrote:
Nevah play JJ wrote: Apprently he is known for his temper tantrums.. but does that mean he should be forgiven yet again for his unsporting behaviour??


Of course not. Not having the ability or social awareness to manage your own behaviour doesn't give you the right to repeatedly act like a ****head.


Amusing considering your signature ;)

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:40 am
by BigPete33
It is highly amusing isn't it? :P Credit to Scott though, there's been a couple of times where I'm sure he's wanted to ram those chips down someone's throat but he's still sucked it up and shaken their hand and walked away (and cried in the corner).


JJ - wtf was the TD doing? Clearly I wasn't there or anything so take this with a grain of salt but how can this sort of stuff not be noticed?

Need some kind of old fart hick baseball umpire to stride up and yell 'yooouuu'''rrreeee oouuuuuttttt' :P


P.S. as if you shouldn't be mentioning this kind of thing, particularly if not doing so means the clown(s) in question just keep coming back. There's other leagues where they'd fit right in.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:09 am
by Nevah play JJ
BigPete33 wrote:JJ - wtf was the TD doing? Clearly I wasn't there or anything so take this with a grain of salt but how can this sort of stuff not be noticed?


Hi Pete... :)

To be honest if you saw the updated post on personal hygene you would see what the TD was up too. (Dealing with a stinky agressive player who threw a punch his way).

It was a very bad night, full moon and all.

Not only that the bloke who was splashed on, didn't make any noise or stir whatsoever, he sat there and took it, "because they are mates".

However, lets be honest, a TD can't be everywhere at once and obviously not all of us adults are grown ups. Which leads to the question, should we be dibberdobbers and tell TD's what is going on after the event or should we be yelling out and drawing attention to something that was obviously wrong.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:20 am
by BigPete33
If someone is just plain being disruptive, I'd love to hear an explanation as to why they should be allowed to get away with it.

It's a pet hate of mine (so apologies if I start ranting) but sitting there because 'you don't want to cause trouble' is weak and just as unacceptable IMO. Trouble is already being caused, saying something in order to have it rectified can only be a good thing.

I'm not suggesting someone should stand up and clout whoever is causing the grief, but most definitely you should be saying something to your TD (even if you do it discreetly).


I could go on forever about this so I'll stop now :)

Thankfully, the NPL as a whole rarely has this problem.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:32 am
by Nevah play JJ
First of all, never appologise for a rant, I love 'em.

I totally agree Pete, I personally think the splashee should have said something, I have a suspicion he is the "bitch" in this "mateship".

Let's be honest, we no longer live in the days where that kind of behaviour was met with a 10 paces turn and shoot mentality. But I want to play with grown ups and those that can take a loss and try and better themselves because of it.

Not someone that turns to a child and cries in the corner.

We rarely if ever have problems with the kind of problem of splashing drinks, but throwing chips.. happens all the time, along with the usual sit there and sulk time.

Re: Sportsmanship

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:40 am
by BigPete33
I'm rather partial to the 'sit and sulk' manoeuvre myself :P