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Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:02 pm
by sirplus
I saw a guy dealing kinda funny and said nothing but later got hold of a couple of dvd about crooked dealers & cheating esp. in holdem (yes it does happen enough to justify someone making the videos which will blow your mind how easy and sneaky it could be done) to see if I could be more confidant to say if something was wrong.

Very interesting.

Watched it and happy to say I am slightly sure I was wrong about this guy but will be watching like a hawk next time we cross paths.

BUT

At the very next tourney I saw a marked card in the deal.
Without looking at face I pointed it out to the table and all decided to proceed. When we finished the hand checked & sure enough it was an Ace like I predicted.

We swapped it but we all had a hard time believing that some one had cheated.

I point out that as the cards are reused then it may not even have been at our venue.

It does happen and could be much more common than you think; just be careful out there.

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:31 pm
by Des
Thats why the player behind the dealer cuts the cards... this reduces the probability of card mechanics. Also the cut card is always on the bottom of the deck, thus you can't deal from the bottom either.

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:44 pm
by sirplus
I hear you
Thats not what happened in either of these cases
I don't want to say too much in case people get ideas

Like I say
These DVD blew me away

and that card ws marked by someone who was dealt it
and that deal was sus enough to prompt me to investigate

btw
Don't you sleep?
lol

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:02 am
by Bacon
What is sleep?? :shock:

Just took out a $1 sit 'n' go, so I'm on a high.. the $4.50 put me back above my initial deposit.

I just broke the 100x cardinal rule :lol:

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:29 am
by Des
off to bed now... got another 9th again tonight

10 tourneys, four 9th... getting over it.

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:41 am
by Goose
Saw the old claytons cut on Tuesday night
I was out of the game and saw the cutter cut the cards then place the bottom bunch on the cut card then proceed to place the cut cards back on top.
I brought it to the attention of the table and TA and a miss deal was called.
Now i dont know if it was coincident or drunkedness but when the dealer was about to deal he fanned the top few cards to the cutter.
Looked a bit sus so i told a few of the players to watch more carefully especially as they had made the final table
I havent come across many cheats in the NPL but there were a few that i caught out in APL by marking cards with finger nails. Low and behold i was playing at an NPL venue and a few players from the APL venue were at the table. I spotted the same marks and requested a deck change. Not once but 3 times. Just couldnt prove which one was doing it

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:10 am
by BigPete33
Des wrote:Thats why the player behind the dealer cuts the cards... this reduces the probability of card mechanics. Also the cut card is always on the bottom of the deck, thus you can't deal from the bottom either.


Let's also not forget WHY we burn a card, and how silly you look if you burn it early :P

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:12 pm
by David
BigPete33 wrote:
Des wrote:Thats why the player behind the dealer cuts the cards... this reduces the probability of card mechanics. Also the cut card is always on the bottom of the deck, thus you can't deal from the bottom either.


Let's also not forget WHY we burn a card, and how silly you look if you burn it early :P



*burns card early whilst splashing and stacking the pot during Pete's deal, talking in Russian*

Re: Marked Cards & crooked dealers

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:20 pm
by Chelsea4thewin
i think dakota is a crooked dealer, he always seems to rig the deck so i dont get any cards on the final table :lol: