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Is the current 888PL Blind/Ante structure for regular games too brutal?

from $1k/2K blinds to 2K/4K blinds +500 ante and onwards turns the game from being a good quality poker game to a crap shoot.

Obviously there is a time frame to meet with the venue but I believe that antes are not the solution and in some cases can slow the actual game play down. Sorting out players with posting antes, getting change and sorting out side pots when they eventuate does reduce the amount of hands being played.

I'd rather see shorter duration blind levels. 12 or even 10 minute levels if time is a factor and perhaps it should be based on runners. Larger runners with shorter blind intervals and vice versa.

Thoughts?

ibd77 wrote:Is the current 888PL Blind/Ante structure for regular games too brutal?

from $1k/2K blinds to 2K/4K blinds +500 ante and onwards turns the game from being a good quality poker game to a crap shoot.

Obviously there is a time frame to meet with the venue but I believe that antes are not the solution and in some cases can slow the actual game play down. Sorting out players with posting antes, getting change and sorting out side pots when they eventuate does reduce the amount of hands being played.

I'd rather see shorter duration blind levels. 12 or even 10 minute levels if time is a factor and perhaps it should be based on runners. Larger runners with shorter blind intervals and vice versa.

Thoughts?

Two main things.

We have to have a set structure regardless of the number of runners. The tournament structure is as advertised before rego is opened and cannot be altered, regardless of how many players turn up.

Secondly, the blinds are already shortened in the current structure. 15 mins before 1st break, 12 mins mins between breaks, 10 mins after 2nd break.

I'm not commenting on this one way or the other, just pointing those things out.




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I personally don't have a problem with it. Nearly every tournament you play will become a crap shoot at some stage or other, that is just the nature of the game. The best structures seem to "crap shoot" it with about 2 and a half tables left, then deepen out a bit more on FT.....

The blind structure timings are crap .........Why not turn things around.

1st 4 blind levels @ 10min
Break
2nd 4 Blind levels @ 12 min
Break
remaining levels at 15min

Because the game will go past midnight with a structure like that.

You can't get around the fact that you can't have a good structures tourney in 3 hours, it's just not possible

crap another league uses a similar structure and it works


In approximatly the same amount of time you have played 2 extra blind levels net effect the field is greatly reduced by natural attrition.

gundog wrote:crap another league uses a similar structure and it works


In approximatly the same amount of time you have played 2 extra blind levels net effect the field is greatly reduced by natural attrition.

This does seem to have merit..

I am going to be unpopular here and say I like ante's. As they are used in all big tournaments that I have seen I find that playing them in venue gets you into good practice for if or when you decide to play these. They also help get rid of the limpers or sitters who try and fold there way to points as you cannot sit back and wait for a hand when you are paying for each hand. I have also found that games with ante's tend to go faster ( this is my opinion).

madali wrote:I am going to be unpopular here and say I like ante's. As they are used in all big tournaments that I have seen I find that playing them in venue gets you into good practice for if or when you decide to play these. They also help get rid of the limpers or sitters who try and fold there way to points as you cannot sit back and wait for a hand when you are paying for each hand. I have also found that games with ante's tend to go faster ( this is my opinion).

+1
ante's are good

gmatical wrote:

gundog wrote:crap another league uses a similar structure and it works


In approximatly the same amount of time you have played 2 extra blind levels net effect the field is greatly reduced by natural attrition.

This does seem to have merit..

Start stacks for the game is question? Number of chips in play?

With our current stack format and average player numbers, what you suggest would happen as benny the cunt says. It's not "crap", as you so eloquently put it.


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