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Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:21 pm
by The Waggoner
I have played a lot of poker over the past 5 or so years and one thing that can be annoying is when playing in a live venue (or a casino for what it matters) is when a player folds out of turn. This can be both accidental (wasn't paying attention) or deliberate (just damn rude). This can of course lead to people who may not be paying attention betting out of turn etc... Accidental, with new players, I can understand it. Everyone has to learn and will of course make mistakes.

I was amazed to hear (discussing at a table) at a recent Away event in Hobart that there may not be any rules in place to deter deliberate offenders though. Very ordinary etiquette for sure. I hope this is not permitted at G/Final in Melb.

Is there anything within 888PL's rules that can punish an intentional "out of turner" if it is deemed a deliberate action has accurred (ie reported to a TD)?

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:35 pm
by 666HARPS666
Yes they would be warned , then if they did it again they would be sat out for an orbit . I would say

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:42 pm
by bennymacca
666HARPS666 wrote:Yes they would be warned , then if they did it again they would be sat out for an orbit . I would say


yep spot on harps

it is a huge breach of etiquette, and if it keeps happening let a TC know, and they will be given a penalty.

you dont gain anything yourself by folding out of turn, so there is no need to do it

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:08 pm
by The Waggoner
thanks for that

I am sure we have all experienced this.

Ciao

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:26 pm
by Nevah play JJ
At the last 2-3 State finals (sorry can't remember the new title of it, so I stick with the old) but the announcers made a very special point of saying no folding out of turn, no getting up from your seat to buy a drink until your turn comes around.

1. It is a huge breech of etiquette.
2. It gives extra information to those at the tables that are yet to act, (no matter what their position) to help in making their decisions.


So in my opinion it is both, bad etiquette and gives an unfair advantage to others yet to act.

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:25 pm
by 666HARPS666
2 things that annoy me lately . 1) people splashing the pot ,with their bets ,
& 2) people when it comes to showdown rolling over their cards "or throwing their cards" on top of the mucked cards .
damn just turn your cards over in front of you

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:26 pm
by AceLosesKing
Things that annoy me lately.

1/ Pub poker players.

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:28 pm
by Rileypooh
is it considered bad manners or bad etiquette if you fold out of turn because your phone rings and you move away from the table to answer your phone?

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:39 pm
by AceLosesKing
Rileypooh wrote:is it considered bad manners or bad etiquette if you fold out of turn because your phone rings and you move away from the table to answer your phone?


No, that's fine IMO.

Re: Folding out of turn - bad etiquette or just bad manners

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:52 pm
by Conspiracy Theorist
Really, cos I dont like it.

The reason for the rule is giving away information not available to players that have already acted.

I really think the 6,7,8,9 or 10 ppl on your table outweigh the one person trying to call you.

CT