HEM tells me i'm a calling station

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby MitchyMitch » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:37 am

In summary
1. NEVER limp when it is folded to you. either raise or fold. from any position.
2. Play ONLY the top 8% of cards from early position. this is pocket pairs 88+, ATs+, AJo+ and KQs. THATS IT!!!!!
3. gradually loosen this range up until you are the loosest on the button. this means RAISING not limping.
4. Play very tight from the small blind. only limp with hands like suited connectors, low-mid pocket pairs. hands that can make a set or better. fold all non connected high card hands, ESPECIALLY hands like A7. once again, the overwhelming majority of hands should be a raise or fold.
5. look for spots to raise in late position. this way you have position, and you have the initiative in the hand, which makes it hard to play.

Hey guys, this is my first post in a while. There are a couple of thing that you need to elaborate on benny the cunt. Firstly
2. Play ONLY the top 8% of cards from early position. this is pocket pairs 88+, ATs+, AJo+ and KQs. THATS IT!!!!!

This range is WAYYYYY to wide in early position, firstly its all chip stack and weather its full ring or 6 max dependant. your range in early position unless you have less then say 15 - 20 BB's should be AQs + AA KK QQ thats it, playing KQs and A10s in early position you are asking for trouble. What do you do when someone 3 bets in positon when you have KQs, you cant realistically call and your turning your hand into a bluff if you 4 bet.

4. Play very tight from the small blind. only limp with hands like suited connectors, low-mid pocket pairs. hands that can make a set or better. fold all non connected high card hands, ESPECIALLY hands like A7. once again, the overwhelming majority of hands should be a raise or fold.

I disagree with this. while its good to have a tight range in the SB, its all player dependant. if the villian on the BB is folding more then 80% to a SB raise its +ev to raise any two especially if he never 3 bets in position. you only have to beat 1 other person and you steal the blinds which can be important in the later stages of a MTT or SNG.
i dont recommend limping in the small blind unless you have a monster AA KK AK AQ because say for instance you limp in the SB with 77 and you get raised you still are not getting odds to hit your set if you call. My advice would be omit limping with small to med pockets for set value either raise them or fold them if you AND you opponant have less then 50 BB's (this holds true to all positions) any questions??

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby MitchyMitch » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:00 pm

mr_smooth81 wrote:VPIP - 30.5
PFR - 7.0 (i know this is far too low)
3bet % - 2.9
Agg Factor - 1.86

SB - 58.8 VPIP, 8.0 PFR
BB - 24.5, 7.0
Early - 23.1, 7.1
Middle - 26.0, 7.0
Cutoff - 21.0, 5.4
Button - 21.8, 6.8

The first thing that i'm pretty certain that most will say is that i dont raise often enough, which i would admit


Ok a couple of things that really stand out for me is
1. you are not changing your range relitive to your position. this can be told the fact that VPIP pretty much stays the same over all positions. this is def. a leak and you must get on top of this if you ever want to move up stakes. My advice would be tighten your early position range to AJ+ AA KK QQ JJ and bring them in with a raise, there is no +ev reason to limp Early position... Never :)

2. You agg factor is quite low which to me says you try and float when you hit top pair. This would be a symptom of not defining your oppoants range pre which makes your marginal hands exceedingly diffcult to play post as most of the time your Out of Position.
My advice there would be any hand you intend on playing bring in with a raise this will turn you hand into a double edge sword. Firstly it will allow to take the inititive off your villian and allows you to control the post flop streets (so you can decide how much is going to be in the middle) and it also allows you C bet on certain flop textures, and double barrel if need be. it also allows you to get value from you monsters. which kinds of turns your sword into a 3 edged one lol.

3. you are also not 3 betting enough. 3 betting is another of you obtaining control of a hand. if your opponants are using HEM and they see you have a 2.9% 3bet you will never get paid fof with you pre flop monsters when on the button or cutoff, think about what range your opponant could have and 3 bet accordingly. say your oppo. is in MP and he Open raises 17% of his range.... thats alot of card combos you might be able to take the pot down with a strategic 3 bet in position with 67ss and even if he calls he is almost forced to check because the limped a 3 bet OOP (which is a terrible play btw) you now control the pot and you can represent whatever you see fit

If you have any questions hit me up on skype "gunbustermitch" i am more then happy to go through all your stats and see if we can find any more leaks

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby bennymacca » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:05 pm

MitchyMitch wrote:This range is WAYYYYY to wide in early position, firstly its all chip stack and weather its full ring or 6 max dependant. your range in early position unless you have less then say 15 - 20 BB's should be AQs + AA KK QQ thats it, playing KQs and A10s in early position you are asking for trouble. What do you do when someone 3 bets in positon when you have KQs, you cant realistically call and your turning your hand into a bluff if you 4 bet.


i dont think its WAAAAY wide, but you are correct, KQs, ATs, AJo, 88 and 99 can be dropped pretty easily from this range too.

the reason i chose that range is because it was similar to rob's raising range already, and i was demonstrating that it is mostly his calling range that is the bad thing, not his raising range.

but i do agree, unless you are pretty decent postflop, KQs is an easy fold. ill edit my post above i think, because you are definitely correct.


MitchyMitch wrote:I disagree with this. while its good to have a tight range in the SB, its all player dependant. if the villian on the BB is folding more then 80% to a SB raise its +ev to raise any two especially if he never 3 bets in position. you only have to beat 1 other person and you steal the blinds which can be important in the later stages of a MTT or SNG.
i dont recommend limping in the small blind unless you have a monster AA KK AK AQ because say for instance you limp in the SB with 77 and you get raised you still are not getting odds to hit your set if you call. My advice would be omit limping with small to med pockets for set value either raise them or fold them if you AND you opponant have less then 50 BB's (this holds true to all positions) any questions??


once again, i trying to was emphasise that limping was bad. personally, i am 43/24 out of the small blind in 888 tourneys (a lot of that is short handed because i usually play the $10 and $22 games), and 29/14 in 6max cash, because i like to steal a lot out of the small blind (i am a winner out of the sb in cash games)

but i think its better to be too tight than too loose, and i was hoping to provide some very quick fix solutions so that rob can pretty much instantly become a more solid player.


mitch, i know that you are a good player, i reckon it would be great if you contributed to these forums a lot, especially in the advanced section. can you see why i was making these points now?



MitchyMitch wrote:Ok a couple of things that really stand out for me is



these are excellent points mitch, well done. you have articulated it very well.

the stuff on 3betting is pretty advanced though, i doubt there would be many 888pl players that would do that. it is also pretty risky in tourneys, as your fold equity is pretty low in a lot of cases. definitely keen for you to elaborate more on this in the advanced section though
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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby gmatical » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:55 pm

I think i'm gonna have to get me this HEM dealy, just to see my stats!!!

If mr smooth has a mobile phone icon cos he is a calling station........

what icon do you have benny the cunt ? mitchymitch?

Rebuy's would skew figures something awful wouldn't it....... man I passively play some junk hands pre-flop early in those BUT my game totally changes post add-on.

could someone with HEM post my stats ? is that possible?

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby MitchyMitch » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:00 pm

gmatical wrote:I think i'm gonna have to get me this HEM dealy, just to see my stats!!!

If mr smooth has a mobile phone icon cos he is a calling station........

what icon do you have benny the cunt ? mitchymitch?

Rebuy's would skew figures something awful wouldn't it....... man I passively play some junk hands pre-flop early in those BUT my game totally changes post add-on.

could someone with HEM post my stats ? is that possible?

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby trishan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:04 pm

I'm a fish.

Gmat:
24/10/3.3 over 221 hands.
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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby MitchyMitch » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:06 pm

trishan wrote:I'm a fish.

Gmat:
24/10/3.3 over 221 hands.



Thats only a small sample sir, raise more and 3 bet a tad more and u'll be sweet. mines of 800k hands i forgot to add
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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby trishan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:07 pm

MitchyMitch wrote:
trishan wrote:I'm a fish.

Gmat:
24/10/3.3 over 221 hands.



Thats only a small sample sir, raise more and 3 bet a tad more and u'll be sweet. mines of 800k hands i forgot to add


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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby MitchyMitch » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:11 pm

Tris,
I might be able to help you with your stats if your happy with you game

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Re: HEM tells me i'm a calling station

Postby bennymacca » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:39 pm

i am also an eagle, 23/16/5.2 3bet, 2.9 agg over about 200k hands
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