WHO HAD THE BEST ADVANTAGE GOING INTO THE FINALS Flt 1 or Fl

[Garth Kay]

I would also like to add that if it wasn't for several posters here the concept of operating a two day or two different venues would not have been raised at the ops meeting we had today.
Thank you to all who have raised these issues.

You are all geniuses.

[Scotty]

Thanks Garth, but we already knew this

Once again, I tip my hat to yourself, the NPL staff and the TTG Hotel for running an absolutely fantastic State Final.

[AceLosesKing]

To answer your questions:
Flight 1: 328
Flight 2: 273

Numbers that moved on to recombine:
Flight 1: 46
Flight 2: 42

Average chip stack of players from flights when combined.
Flight 1: 20,000
Flight 2: 19,500

Members of top 50 in the combine:
Not too sure but I think it was at least 8.

Top 50 that cashed:
0 I think, but I have been informed it could have possibly been three.

Interesting, interesting. Our table (flight 1) queried a few times whether you guys would cap the entrants of flight 1 at 60 or something, because, apparently, in previous state finals, when the runners hit 60 it stopped. But nobody knew.

New promotions for this season:
Almost an extra $10,000 in prizes for this season.
State Final will remain at a $25,000 prize pool from now on, and the top 30 will be paid.
Country regions to have a regional leaderboard and regional final prize pool. Prize pools remain the same but with cash rewards been leaned towards finals. So for example the BG region will see a decrease in cash rewards for the leaderboard but an increase of cash for the finals.
A satellite series that will see all players able to qualify but weighted towards metro players or all metro regions will have a $1000 final.
So many things up in the air but we have more dosh to spread around yet again.

Great, sounds exciting. Nice work Garth.

[bennymacca]

sounds good garth, keep us posted

[mr_niceguy_1979]

The only reason I went all in on my pocket 4s is because I wasn't waiting 4 hours to come back with a low stack. Did the flight system affect my play? Yes. Do I blame NPL for that? No. Each flight system had its advantages and disadvantages, and each had to work for their qualifiers. Its up to each player on how they play in the conditions they're given.

If we're going to debate how to change, or "fix" the state finals, I wholeheartedly support cutting the numbers to 500 or less.

Well, I've got to page 2 of this discussion and total agree with Aaron's post. I too pushed all-in with a hand I wouldn't have normally cause I didn't want to be short stacked on return from a 4 hour break, wanted to make it worth it. And I too don't blame NPL for this, it was my strategy based on the finals system in place.

Having said this, I reckon a flight system at different venues or a single flight system (Port Club) is the way I think we should be heading.

[David]

Seriously though, if someone was short stacked at the end of the first flight - or rather just before - wouldn't you be pushing soon after that anyway, REGARDLESS of the break?

Four hour break or not - you have SFA chips - you need to make a move.

[mr_niceguy_1979]

LOL

Looks like Ace we had the same problem
Our 4s got busted about the same time
(refer Final Bad Beat Stories)

Very similar

Ditto

[Matt Weeks]

Hi guys, if my figures are right.
If everyone turned up we would have had

791 players

415 for flight 1
376 for flight 2

Garth did a pretty good juggling act considering

[Bob B]

No idea Bob, as to how many from the top 50 got through.

Not sure it matters though.

It doesn't matter if you played 100 games and qualified in the top 50, or if you won a lucky event at the end like the Tonsley/GJT... The state final is a clean slate - it has no relevance how you got there.

No one was better or worse than anyone else. Both flights played to a "time" and then joined. Since there were less people in flight two, less people got through.

Sounds good to me Dave. And once again thank you for your support and input. Cheers Bob B

[Bob B]

Bob,
I never took any of the posts as truly negative.
I accepted the feedback and have stated that we will endeavor to have the venue seat all at once.

Otherwise we are seriously considering a two day event or having two venues operate simultaneously.
I think it is something to seriously consider.

A complaint is something I take very seriously, it's not a whinge or a gripe guys. No matter what I day on here we take everything, that you as players propose, very seriously.

I was disappointed thought that only a few took the time to congratulate and praise staff than those who wanted to post on here about their thoughts on the flight system.

It's not attack on anyone, I think I am allowed to express my disappointment at times.

I appreciate the feedback and I am glad that many are happy with the state finals and that they really enjoyed them. I know your post started off as a query but it did denegrate into an opinion based thread on the flight system, noone really answered your query fully.

To be quite honest I think the first flight has the greatest advantage as long as they prepared correctly the night before. Which means having a good meal and plenty of rest the night before.

To answer your questions:
Flight 1: 328
Flight 2: 273

Numbers that moved on to recombine:
Flight 1: 46
Flight 2: 42

Average chip stack of players from flights when combined.
Flight 1: 20,000
Flight 2: 19,500

Members of top 50 in the combine:
Not too sure but I think it was at least 8.

Top 50 that cashed:
0 I think, but I have been informed it could have possibly been three.

New promotions for this season:
Almost an extra $10,000 in prizes for this season.
State Final will remain at a $25,000 prize pool from now on, and the top 30 will be paid.
Country regions to have a regional leaderboard and regional final prize pool. Prize pools remain the same but with cash rewards been leaned towards finals. So for example the BG region will see a decrease in cash rewards for the leaderboard but an increase of cash for the finals.
A satellite series that will see all players able to qualify but weighted towards metro players or all metro regions will have a $1000 final.
So many things up in the air but we have more dosh to spread around yet again.


Keep the ideas coming.

"CONGRATUBLOODYATIONS" FOR ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST REPLIES YOU HAVE EVER, AND I REALLY MEAN EVER, MADE ON THIS FORUM.

It has to be the most constructive, informative, down to earth and complimentary replies I have ever read from you for a long, long time. Thank you!!!

It was such a well informed reply that even blind freddy could have understood. I appreciate the fact that you have acknowledge our comments as being helpful and constructive.

I, like yourself can also get the hairs on the back of my neck up a little and try to be ........... hmmmm, nice, and selective with my wording, if you know what I mean, LOL.

Thanks again for your reply and now I need to write a new post a subject that is worthy of posting, cheers Bob B