Joe Cada doco - looks good.

[JMACK007]

Defensiveness is not something i ever feel, as (in general) i dont place any importance on other's views of me or my thoughts or opinions... Of course if i am trying to learn something etc, then I do, but that has nothing to do with ego like defensiveness does.

That is the BEST way NOT to learn anything.....

You don't have to be trying to learn something in order to be taught.....

[JMACK007]

Grasshopper....

[AJG]

OMG another pedant... Please, let me rephrase so you better understand...
Although I do think taken altogether, not just the middle of the sentence, my meaning is intelligable (see very bottom)

Defensiveness is not something i ever feel, as (in general) i dont place any importance on other's views of me or my thoughts or opinions... Of course if i am in a situation where I can learn something, particularly something I am interested in etc, then I do, but that has nothing to do with ego, like defensiveness does.

I thought the italicised part made my thoughts clear:

I dont place importance on other's views of me out of an ego defence mechanism....

etc: as in 'trying to learn something', but other situations to.

And the part you bolded, is completed (was intended to anyway) by that part I Italicised: Ego and the defence of it is not something that drives me to place importance on others view of me personally, or thoughts and opinions I have which are the result of the person I am (ie not my ego)... Thoughts never define who you are.

I will correct a mistake I did make there, when I sayed "not something i ever feel", I really should have said "rarely feel".... Dont claim to be an enlightened master, far from it...

Besides, i think trying to learn is a good way to learn something... I mean, how can you learn if your not really paying attention with a view to learning from it? At the very least it helps?

And honestly, if you truly understand what I am saying here, you should see that this actually is one thing that opens up learning. Many people create their self-identity based on the Ego, and when presented with conflicting opinions and such the Ego automatically reacts in defence, as any threat to the way it see's things is actually a threat to the Ego itself (although this is usually completely unconcious reaction). And of course, we are not the Ego, but we have become so identified with it that alot of people see no distiction between the Ego and their true self. Reducing this identity with Ego and its responses, ultimately eliminating it completely, removes the biggest obstacle we have to learning, expanding our awareness and true understanding...

[Sinitster]

[maccatak11]

AJG, when you assume you make an ass out of u and me, but in this case, mainly you.

[krunchie]

my all time favorite line from a movie is from John Travolta
in Broken Arrow

"Assumption is the Mother of All Fcuk up's"

[JMACK007]

"Please don't shoot at the Thermo Nuclear Weapons...!!"

[JMACK007]

^^ALL THAT STUFF ABOVE^^.

Sheesh!.....But who wrote all that?? You? Your Ego?? Another facinating part of your Multi-Self??....

[muzzington]

This thread is terrible.

[bennymacca]

OMG another pedant... Please, let me rephrase so you better understand...
Although I do think taken altogether, not just the middle of the sentence, my meaning is intelligable (see very bottom)

Defensiveness is not something i ever feel, as (in general) i dont place any importance on other's views of me or my thoughts or opinions... Of course if i am in a situation where I can learn something, particularly something I am interested in etc, then I do, but that has nothing to do with ego, like defensiveness does.

I thought the italicised part made my thoughts clear:

I dont place importance on other's views of me out of an ego defence mechanism....

etc: as in 'trying to learn something', but other situations to.

And the part you bolded, is completed (was intended to anyway) by that part I Italicised: Ego and the defence of it is not something that drives me to place importance on others view of me personally, or thoughts and opinions I have which are the result of the person I am (ie not my ego)... Thoughts never define who you are.

I will correct a mistake I did make there, when I sayed "not something i ever feel", I really should have said "rarely feel".... Dont claim to be an enlightened master, far from it...

Besides, i think trying to learn is a good way to learn something... I mean, how can you learn if your not really paying attention with a view to learning from it? At the very least it helps?

And honestly, if you truly understand what I am saying here, you should see that this actually is one thing that opens up learning. Many people create their self-identity based on the Ego, and when presented with conflicting opinions and such the Ego automatically reacts in defence, as any threat to the way it see's things is actually a threat to the Ego itself (although this is usually completely unconcious reaction). And of course, we are not the Ego, but we have become so identified with it that alot of people see no distiction between the Ego and their true self. Reducing this identity with Ego and its responses, ultimately eliminating it completely, removes the biggest obstacle we have to learning, expanding our awareness and true understanding...

dude, you felt the need to tell me that you were adept at googling because i happened to find something that you didn't and make a joke that you must be bad at googling. And then you try to say that you dont defend yourself?

that is easily the most ridiculous thing i have heard on this forum.


dont bother replying, i am done with this thread, as im sure everyone else is.