Beat/Vent Thread

[trishan]

LOL my maths is wrong (because the stats from stove assume both players go all-in at the same time) The actual formula for scenario two (and even one) is REALLY complicated and depends on flops and at what point the money goes in.

The above shows the considerations you need to make when making a decision:

Min raising means
Increase in players decrease equity

To be profitable:
Increase in return of min-raising over standard raising > decrease in equity

[Garth Kay]

Ok.

So you are aware, late stages of a tournament, we are in the money.

This table had a VPIP of 16%. My two opponents had a VPIP of 18% and 22% respectively. Villain on the button actually had a 3 bet rate of 10.1% from the button though. Hence why I was looking for a spew. And I do have history on my two opponents with over 800 hands played over several tourneys (small data sample I know).

I'm not saying min raising is optimal either, but I needed to get value and every time I was raising standard I wasn't getting play, even from the BB. This deviated from normal operating procedures and I had some players that were more than likely going to play in this hand if I priced them in well enough.

We can debate all day about this but the fact of the matter is; I extracted 6 BB's from the SB and had villain commit all in on the turn when I had 88% equity in the hand.

I am quite happy with that result.

[Garth Kay]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 55 Tournament, 125/250 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



UTG+1 (t7057)
MP1 (t11685)
MP2 (t11954)
MP3 (t8241)
CO (t4130)
Button (t4060)
Hero (SB) (t4513)
BB (t8455)
UTG (t11987)

Hero's M: 7.52



Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 6
6 folds, Button bets t750, Hero raises to t4488 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls t3285 (All-In)

Flop: (t8545) 2, J, 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t8545) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t8545) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t8545

Results:
Button had K, Q (one pair, Kings).
Hero had A, 6 (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Button won t8545

[Garth Kay]

***** Hand History for Game 62672149 ***** (Pacific)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 15, 08:47:11 ET 2009
Table 25140500 table 58 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 2: iamflowjob ( $4366.00 USD )
Seat 3: suckoutmgnet ( $4538.00 USD )
Seat 6: vegie1999 ( $10837.00 USD )
Seat 7: 1ello ( $1462.00 USD )
Seat 8: donketote ( $6030.00 USD )
Seat 9: lutz469 ( $4246.00 USD )
lutz469 posts small blind [$75.00 USD].
iamflowjob posts big blind [$150.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to suckoutmgnet [ Ah Js ]
suckoutmgnet raises [$300.00 USD]
vegie1999 folds
1ello folds
donketote folds
lutz469 folds
iamflowjob calls [$150.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 3d, Jd ]
iamflowjob checks
suckoutmgnet bets [$300.00 USD]
iamflowjob raises [$1575.00 USD]
suckoutmgnet raises [$3938.00 USD]
iamflowjob calls [$2491.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
iamflowjob shows [Kd, 9d ]
suckoutmgnet shows [Ah, Js ]
iamflowjob wins $8807.00 USD from main pot
suckoutmgnet wins $172.00 USD

[Garth Kay]

The min raise in this hand is a misclick too by the way.

[Garth Kay]

Oh and he snap off on the Flush draw quicker than I could blink.

[Garth Kay]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



MP2 (t12880)
Hero (MP3) (t11395)
CO (t8903)
Button (t11310)
SB (t9505)
BB (t10220)
UTG (t16070)
UTG+1 (t6577)
MP1 (t4810)

Hero's M: 10.85



Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, A
2 folds, MP1 bets t950, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2000, 4 folds, MP1 raises to t4760 (All-In), Hero calls t2760

Flop: (t10570) 8, K, 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t10570) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t10570) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t10570

Results:
MP1 had 2, K (two pair, Kings and twos).
Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP1 won t10570

[bennymacca]

that last one is brutal. wtf was he doing there?

[Garth Kay]

Apparently he had to:

"Do something with nothing"

[BionicMike]

that last one is brutal. wtf was he doing there?

Reminds me of a hand played by one Darvin Moon this week........ Maybe he has inspired a new breed of maniacs....