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Re: Obscure question

Postby AceLosesKing » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:39 pm

What's this fair play rule?
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Re: Obscure question

Postby rcon » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:48 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:What's this fair play rule?
exactly. There are rules, and there is etiquette, but there is no such thing as fair play.
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Postby maccatak11 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:41 pm

I still don't even understand the question
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Re: Obscure question

Postby Brett Kay » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:44 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:What's this fair play rule?

Could be spirit or interests of the game.
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Re: Obscure question

Postby JMACK007 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:51 pm

AceLosesKing wrote:What's this fair play rule?

I think Harps is referring to the grey area that allows the TD to make a decision in the best interest's of the game.....
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Postby rcon » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:02 am

A TD can make a ruling, but I always thought that was based on intent (either of the player hiding cards, or moving chips/cards). Pretty sure "fair" wasn't one of the things they took into account. Happy to be corrected.
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Re: Obscure question

Postby JMACK007 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:05 am

So if you were the TD, would you award the entire bet to the guy hiding his cards, or just the min blind amount??

I have seen this scenario a number of times, and usually the player mucking only has to hand over the blind amount (depending on what the other player has actually done before the cards were mucked....)
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Re: Obscure question

Postby Caleb » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:18 am

JMACK007 wrote:So if you were the TD, would you award the ientire bet to the guy hiding his cards, or just the min blind amount??

I have seen this scenario a number of times, and usually the player mucking only has to hand over the blind amount (depending on what the other player has actually done before the cards were mucked....)


Just to clarify, you mean the call amount right, not the blind amount? What you're saying could be misconstrued in a post-flop situation or a situation with a raise already.
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Re: Obscure question

Postby JMACK007 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:21 am

Caleb Rybalka wrote:
JMACK007 wrote:So if you were the TD, would you award the entire bet to the guy hiding his cards, or just the min blind amount??

I have seen this scenario a number of times, and usually the player mucking only has to hand over the blind amount (depending on what the other player has actually done before the cards were mucked....)


Just to clarify, you mean the call amount right, not the blind amount? What you're saying could be misconstrued in a post-flop situation or a situation with a raise already.

Yes mate, the minimum amount that the mucking player is in for, i.e., if no one has raised before them, then it is the blind amount. Please let me know if this is wrong??
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Re: Obscure question

Postby Caleb » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:30 am

Correct.

But in a post flop situation with no previous bet they would take their whole bet back and lose the rest of the pot. Saying they lose the blind amount would infer that they were receive a chip penalty or something like that.
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