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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby bennymacca » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:10 pm

BigPete33 wrote:I think you're kinda missing what I'm suggesting tho...

1 Forward kicking most of the goals

or

the entire forward line sharing the load


which do you reckon is more desirable?


i get your point, if you look at most teams that win premierships, they always have a good spread of goalkickers, BUT there is always a gun forward among the lot that kicks a lot of goals.

i.e geelong last year:

C.Mooney 67
S.Johnson 49
N.Ablett 34
M.Stokes 32
G.Ablett 30


single gun forward, but with a lot of support

if you took away mooney though, you still have a forward line that contributes a lot, and still probably have a winning forward line, but with 67 less goals kicked.

you could say that if mooney wasnt there, everyone else would chip in and kick his goals, but i dont think that happens as well as it should


David wrote:I agree - a good forward is needed - just as a good midfield and defence etc..

But I don't agree that the reason the Crows didnt make the grand finals was from lacking a key forward.
benny the cunt the macca wrote:a forward does not make a team, but its very hard to be a good team without a good forward kicking goals - the crows of recent years are a possible exception to this


I agree - a good forward is needed - just as a good midfield and defence etc..

But I don't agree that the reason the Crows didnt make the grand finals was from lacking a key forward.


what do you think the reason was?
best defence ever, gun midfield, an ok forward line.

if it wasn't the forward line that let them down, where was it
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby David » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:35 pm

A bit of luck (always needed when it's under a kick), didn't play the best on the day ...

I just can't see logic in saying the reason they didn't get to the grand final was lacking a key forward, yet they battled through 22 rounds and a final series to get to the prelim without one.

The best team on paper doesn't always win, there's so many factors, and a thousand individual moments in a game that can sway the result.

As for having Pav - well - I'm sure Kenny STILL feels pressure over that.. (not that he should)
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby bennymacca » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:52 pm

i am not saying that they couldnt have made a grandie withought a gun forward, or anything of the like

but what i am saying, is that it makes it a lot easier

David wrote:I just can't see logic in saying the reason they didn't get to the grand final was lacking a key forward, yet they battled through 22 rounds and a final series to get to the prelim without one.


thats not what i am saying at all

of course a bit of luck is needed, and the crows SHOULD have made a gf with the team that they had - but add a key forward into the mix, and well it makes a big difference.

do you see where i am coming from now?
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby David » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:59 pm

I guess this part here makes me think that :

also ask me why the crows have made 4 prelims in recent memory, and not any grand finals? lack of a go-to forward in every case


Implies (to me) that you can get to 4 prelims without one but you can't make a grand final without one..

Which, I didn't agree with :)

If you don't mean this, sorry - I misinterpreted.
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby BigPete33 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:04 pm

Should have sent him a txt benny the cunt, he'd never have misinterpreted that!



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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby David » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:04 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Should have sent him a txt benny the cunt, he'd never have misinterpreted that!



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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby BigPete33 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:07 pm

LOL
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby bennymacca » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:43 pm

David wrote:I guess this part here makes me think that :

also ask me why the crows have made 4 prelims in recent memory, and not any grand finals? lack of a go-to forward in every case


Implies (to me) that you can get to 4 prelims without one but you can't make a grand final without one..

Which, I didn't agree with :)

If you don't mean this, sorry - I misinterpreted.



nah i just meant that they were unlucky that they made 3 prelims and lost them - undoubted

but if they had someone like pavlich added to the team they already had - they MIGHT have been more successful
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby DILLIGAF » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:54 pm

David wrote:
benny the cunt the macca wrote:But I don't agree that the reason the Crows didnt make the grand finals was from lacking a key forward.
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Re: GO YOU CROWS

Postby AceLosesKing » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:10 pm

Ok, that? That's the funniest thing I've read in like, a month.
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