Set of 4's on the turn

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Set of 4's on the turn

Postby MattyMoo » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:12 pm

Pokerstars $2.20 freeze out.
Blinds 50/100

Button: 2845
SB: 4150
BB: 1195
UTG: 1350
Hero: 3510 (hand 44)
MP: 5220
Hijack: 5080
C/O: 1630

UTG limps, UTG+1 Fold, Hero limps, MP & Hijack Fold, C/O limps, Button Folds, SB Limps, BB checks.

Flop 8d, 2h, 7d

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, C/O checks

Turn 4s

SB Checks, BB Bets $500, UTG Folds, Hero Calls, C/O Raises All In ($1530), BB Calls All In.

Should I have raised at any point along here or have I played it okay so far and just call the two all ins or fold?
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby trishan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:18 pm

You play small pairs for implied odds. Missed the flop, check is fine. When you hit you check. Thats perfectly fine. Some might say bet to build a pot. Both plays fine.
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby MattyMoo » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:19 pm

Trishan do you call the two all ins?

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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby trishan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:20 pm

MattyMoo wrote:Trishan do you call the two all ins?


At these stakes Matty I can't hit call fast enough.
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:23 pm

i think you played it ok up until this point.

personally, i dont like limping any pocket pairs, i either raise them, or fold them. in this case i would probably fold pre. but if the table is pretty passive, then limping is ok.

on the turn, it is a bit of a tough one.

56 is in both of the players ranges.

they both check the flop, then go crazy on the turn? thats a bit weird.

my guess is that one of them has 56. the other possibly has a slow played 2 pair or a set, or A4dd

tought spot, but you have plenty of chips to play with if you fold. trishan is right though, the stakes are small, so random 2 pair and top pair hands do crazy stuff like this too.
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby pundies » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:25 pm

trishan wrote:
MattyMoo wrote:Trishan do you call the two all ins?


At these stakes Matty I can't hit call fast enough.



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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby MattyMoo » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:27 pm

Well I do call. It is only $2.20 after all...

River is Ad with BB having 56o and C/O with 35c's. So I lose out.

Thanks for the comments.

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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby trishan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:31 pm

MattyMoo wrote:Well I do call. It is only $2.20 after all...

River is Ad with BB having 56o and C/O with 35c's. So I lose out.

Thanks for the comments.


Took me a while to be able to say this (and sometimes I still can't) but that's just an outcome - you played the hand right.
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby pundies » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:34 pm

bennymacca wrote: i dont like limping any pocket pairs


Sometimes I like a limp with a low pocket pair, it can be a good way to get paid.

Unfortunatly this situation did not work out that way, but I would have played it the same way for a $2.20 buy.........for the chance.

Had the buy in been $200..........that changes things. I would have folded pre in that position.
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Re: Set of 4's on the turn

Postby Garth Kay » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:46 pm

trishan wrote:
MattyMoo wrote:Trishan do you call the two all ins?


At these stakes Matty I can't hit call fast enough.



Are you sure - drawing straightening board and I am pretty sure one of the all ins has the str8 already.

I'm not sure if stacking off here is the right play, too many hands have you beat and too many other hands have you stacking off pretty light on the redraw.

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