Free Roll Poker @ the Hoppers Club

[maccatak11]

With all that has been written in this thread, what was catylst to survey players as to their preference.

Was it Venue driven?

Was it Player driven?

Was it 888pl driven?

what should be told who actually decided there was a need for the survey to decide between CBI and freeroll, how was the question presented on the survey sheet? are you sure that the way the question was presented was totally netural.

Just as an observation there are 4 CBI events and 10 freerolls in SA tonight. If I was living in Adelaide my 1st choice would be Para Hills a Freeroll and then depending on work I might play the CBI in the CBD, but then again I have the disposable income to play CBI's and travel so its not a real concern to me.

I'm more concerned with the rubbish you're spouting to be honest.

Telling someone to back off, then doing that exact same thing yourself, makes you look like a bit of a dickhead.


Just trying to save you some face.

Im sorry Pete, but you are just being a tool here. Regardless of whether previous posts from Gundog were stupid or not, his post here is entirely constructive, and answers to these questions would most certainly help people like Harps understand why decisions are made to change venues, when most players are unlikely to have a deep understanding of the business workings of 888pl.

Seriously, when you began posting again here i thought - yay pete is back, but if this is going to be the standard of your contributions, then it is probably best not to post.

[BigPete33]

You do have a point, but I'm hardly about to be accused of something incorrectly and take a backwards step.

I'm certainly not going to pretend it didn't happen or that it's ok.

I've invited Graham to take it back, partly so we actually can have a conversation on the topic without him looking like a complete hypocrite and partly so he doesn't get a love tap on the schnozz when next I see him


You're welcome to provide your personal opinion on everyone elses posts too, just for fairness, or did you actually have an answer to his questions?

[AceLosesKing]

Sadly though for Harps, you can't ignore the majority.

If every player was asked what they wanted and a CBI was the majority then its only right that 888pl at least trial this at a venue. It's like the old phrase, you can't please all of the people all of the time. But you have to listen to the majority or risk losing them.

And it's not like this has not been happening all over Victoria until now. It has and I've witnessed the positive outcomes as well as the negatives. I guess it just gets alot more personal when its your own venue and effects you.

The bottom line is though, if the players opinions are being taken into account and the majority are in favour of a cash buy in then its very hard to argue against this without coming off poorly. (And certainly the heated insults add zero weight to your case)

As Garth has eluded too, CBI games will often attract people who will spend more in the venue. So of course the venue is going to be happy to move to whatever format increases their revenue the most.

This.

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[666HARPS666]

here it is

[Chris Trudgeon]

much better like this

[666HARPS666]

Thanks Chris

[madali]

Have to admit Harps that this really covers all the options for the games and could not be misunderstood by anyone.

[15GIZMO]

By the way, in no way am I saying debate and discussion should be closed on this matter, I just thought it would be good to put through the viewpoint from the venues as well as the market changes that VIC is currently undergoing and that SA will experience over the coming year.

Please feel free to continue to discuss and debate the topic in a civilized manner. Please refrain from insults and heated debate.

Well you SA poker players, seems that this will affect you guys too soon enough.

[gundog]

Have to admit Harps that this really covers all the options for the games and could not be misunderstood by anyone.

But that still hasn't answered the question who was started the whole survey in the 1st place and the reasons behind it.

[madali]

Have to admit Harps that this really covers all the options for the games and could not be misunderstood by anyone.

But that still hasn't answered the question who was started the whole survey in the 1st place and the reasons behind it.

Whether it was the players ( unlikely) , 888 management or the venue does not really matter as the purpose of the survey is clear. To find out what the majority of players wanted.