Crown Cash Conundrum

[Stubbyholder]

If you sit down at the table and say because it is crown they are going to play any 2 cards it is a big mistake.

Finally, some sense.


That doesn't just apply to Crown, it applies everywhere.

They're no better/worse over here in SA and from what I hear about QLD it's no different there either. It may be slightly more accurate to say "on the $1/$2 tables" or "at the lower limit cash tables" but even then you are putting yourself at risk by tarring everyone with the same brush.

Your main concern should be your own fundamentals.

If an opponent plays a hand badly and gets lucky (hello most of 888PL) and you are confident that how you played the hand was the correct and logical thing to do, then what's to worry about? It'll catch up with them and you'll very likely be in front of them when it happens, no big deal.

[Garth Kay]

What a farce of a thread, and thank you once again for reminding me why I have ceased with strat discussions.

There were definitely some laughs along the way.

Preflop: I see no issue with smoothing here (if opponent is aggressive) but strongly suggest re raising against passive opponents.

Postflop: Don't ever let the foot off. C bet 1/3rd of the pot, play some small ball. I hate checking here as it screams "I missed the board (set) and I don't have an Ace" or just as likely "I'm a noob, hit my ace now slow playing it, come at me biatches"

Either way you have done nothing to polarise villains range and you're up the shit (as played) so fold on the flop.

As to the environment discussion? Well environment always plays a factor and you can generally categorise your class of general opponent by the stakes and environment, but it really should only be taken into consideration (and only slightly at that) when there are many unknowns about the villain.

In the case of Crown opponents being loose aggressive - I LOL at that. Try a loose passive image and you will be closer to the mark.

[AceLosesKing]

Can't believe I just read all of this. Jesus.

[gmatical]

/thread

[JMACK007]

Guys, seriously, there is no "right way" to play a hand. The same hand can be completely different each time you play it depending on so many factors happening around you....

[Russ]

Guys, seriously, there is no "right way" to play a hand. The same hand can be completely different each time you play it depending on so many factors happening around you....

theres a "you're a" joke in here.

[666HARPS666]

Guys, seriously, there is no "right way" to play a hand. The same hand can be completely different each time you play it depending on so many factors happening around you....

theres a "you're a" joke in here.

L.V.P= least valuable post ?

[maccatak11]

Guys, seriously, there is no "right way" to play a hand. The same hand can be completely different each time you play it depending on so many factors happening around you....

There possibly might be more than one profitable ways to play a hand, but there ARE CERTAINLY right and wrong ways to play a hand.

And those various different 'ways' to play a hand are often in response to very specific reads or information gained from other players at the table.

In the absence of this extra information, then a more standard approach is required. It's this standard approach that people have been discussing in his thread. Yes, we COULD play kings in various ways in order to win A hand, but in he long term, certain strategies are going to be more profitable than others.

Gmatical, jmack, and others need to look past the results of THIS hand.

Whilst you were probably looking feedback about what you should have done in this specific hand, more advanced hand discussion means giving feedback not on one hand, but on the situation, so that advice and thoughts can be applied or adapted to other similar situations faced. After all, we can't change what happened in the past, but we can apply our knowledge to future situations.

I somehow think this is being lost in some very results orientated thinking in his thread.

So glen and others, be open to feedback in all areas. Some of it you will take on board, other parts you won't, but until you accept that probably the very best way to learn in poker is from the advice and experiences of other better players, then you are simply preventing yourselves from improving as poker players.

[JMACK007]

There possibly might be more than one profitable ways to play a hand, but there ARE CERTAINLY right and wrong ways to play a hand.

And those various different 'ways' to play a hand are often in response to very specific reads or information gained from other players at the table.

In the absence of this extra information, then a more standard approach is required. It's this standard approach that people have been discussing in his thread. Yes, we COULD play kings in various ways in order to win A hand, but in he long term, certain strategies are going to be more profitable than others.

Gmatical, jmack, and others need to look past the results of THIS hand.

Whilst you were probably looking feedback about what you should have done in this specific hand, more advanced hand discussion means giving feedback not on one hand, but on the situation, so that advice and thoughts can be applied or adapted to other similar situations faced. After all, we can't change what happened in the past, but we can apply our knowledge to future situations.

I somehow think this is being lost in some very results orientated thinking in his thread.

So glen and others, be open to feedback in all areas. Some of it you will take on board, other parts you won't, but until you accept that probably the very best way to learn in poker is from the advice and experiences of other better players, then you are simply preventing yourselves from improving as poker players.

Sigh! The only input I had on this thread is that the guy isn't playing an Ace. That is based exactly on what you say, previous experience. What you guys seem to miss is that the situation is not black and white, come into the grey area for once. How about telling Gmat to bet the flop and see where he is?? You all automatically put the guy on an ace, which is completely read based, and you don't have any reads!!! This is why hand discussion on this forum is so frustrating....

You guys go into every discussion with a "my way is right and no one else could possibly be right" type of attitude, and it's getting old....

[maccatak11]

No. Hand discussion on this forum is frustrating because some people are much much worse players than they think they are, and are not willing to accept other thoughts from more experienced players. That's all.