Crown Cash Conundrum

[JMACK007]

ok, last post, it is Crown and I don't put him on an Ace, I am not justifying anything, it is just my thoughts and I'll live with them. If you guys think I am a crap poker player, all the better for me really...

[AceLosesKing]

"There are no black and white situations."
"He never has an Ace here."

What.

[maccatak11]

If your read/thoughts were that he didn't have an ace, then that's fine, but you still haven't explained WHY you think this, other than 'because it's crown'.

Yes there are different styles and strategies in poker, but there is no point at all in participating in a hand discussion thread unless you go io a little more detail and explain yourself.

Again, what range do you think our opponent has??

[madali]

ok, last post, it is Crown and I don't put him on an Ace, I am not justifying anything, it is just my thoughts and I'll live with them. If you guys think I am a crap poker player, all the better for me really...

JMack I have huge respect for you as a player as you should already know. Your just have natural ability is just wow but sometimes you take things too personally. I am sure that no one would ever suggest that you were anything but a very good player as you have proven over and over again with phenomenal results but you need to see that there is merit in what others are saying and that there could be a more optimal way of playing a hand which in the long run would be the most +EV. To suggest that they guy could not have or is highly unlikely to have an ace really makes no sense to me and I am not the only one given the other responses. I am not saying that the comments or suggestions from others will or are always right but I do believe they all have merit as it all allows us to see a different way of thinking. If you can have insight into other ways of thinking it will help you immensely at the table.

[maccatak11]

JMack I have huge respect for you as a player as you should already know. Your just have natural ability is just wow but sometimes you take things too personally. I am sure that no one would ever suggest that you were anything but a very good player as you have proven over and over again with phenomenal results but you need to see that there is merit in what others are saying and that there could be a more optimal way of playing a hand which in the long run would be the most +EV. To suggest that they guy could not have or is highly unlikely to have an ace really makes no sense to me and I am not the only one given the other responses. I am not saying that the comments or suggestions from others will or are always right but I do believe they all have merit as it all allows us to see a different way of thinking. If you can have insight into other ways of thinking it will help you immensely at the table.

Please never leave this forum. Eight thumbs up for this post.

[BigPete33]

I would say that Jo is a crap player, and I tell him to his face all the time

Luckily, Jo is a nice bloke and we can have a laugh about these things.

But since you asked Jo, pretty much the ENTIRE league is actually quite horrible. An awful lot of you have never progressed at all, and some of you think you have - but you've simply developed other bad habits instead of the super bad ones from before There are also some pretty reasonable players too, and sometimes we're even lucky enough to be on their table.

Some people might not want to learn anything, and that's cool - nothing says they have to.

But it's those that perhaps don't realise just how bad they really are and then proceed to argue that need a bit of a kick up the backside.


So, in the interests of trying to be helpful instead of just slagging you all, maybe in the future there might be some sort of "educational stuff" that will be available for those that do wish to improve themselves, and without the risk of having the brutal truth rammed down their throats.

I'd take part in it for sure, there's def plenty I've still got to learn (i'd rate myself as an average player at best) and I'd suggest the same should apply for pretty much everyone.

I honestly can't see it happening though until the vast majority of you accept the fact that you're (we're) terrible players and that you really should listen to others if you wish to learn something.

Pub poker isn't exactly the final table of the WSOP now is it?

[gundog]

I'm just a poker hack that enjoys the game, some of my comments will pi$$ a few of you off, so be it, what is the object of the game "WINNING" it think, IMO saying I played the hand correctly but I lost is BS.

As per normal when someone as a question, the experts dont bother responding to the question at hand (save Garth) or bother reading the entire origional thread.

I had a good run in the first hour, building my stack from $80 to about $150, mostly taking it from an old guy who seemed to always have some sort of hand but who would go all the way to the river, sometimes leading, sometimes calling all the way, burning through about 3 or 4 buy ins ($80) in the process

Jmack has it right the enviroment is an important aspect of how you play, confirming Pete's comment it aint WSOP final table.

Krunchie said im sory gmat but if you are not playing hands for the long run then give up now mate,
poker is not a short term game, its about making decsions that make you a profit over a long period of time

Wrong Krunchie a 1/2 table at Crown is whatever you want to make it short or long because you can get up and go whenever you like, its a cash game and you are gambling so each hand is a single game not a tournement.

Gmat I offer my hack opinion you should have made a bet rather than checking the flop.

[krunchie]

so you are sugesting that as long as you win the pot then the way you did it is justified

that has to one of the stupidist things i have ever read

of course you can play a hand correctly and lose, thats were bad luck and suckouts etc come in.

my point is that the results over time will even out in your favour if you do the correct moves over that period of time.

[muzzington]

The only thing I'm addicted to right now is winning the pots. Winning, anyone? Rhymes with winning. Sorry guys, didn't make the rules. Losing the pot is not an option, they picked a fight with a warlock.

[madali]

The only thing I'm addicted to right now is winning the pots. Winning, anyone? Rhymes with winning. Sorry guys, didn't make the rules. Losing the pot is not an option, they picked a fight with a warlock.

Nice work Mr Sheen