Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

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Re: Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

Postby JMACK007 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:46 am

Nathan Butler wrote:
Nathan Butler wrote:
BigPete33 wrote:Nathan, you put this player on JT on the flop? How/why?


Soul Read.


Soul-read. That is all.

Lol, soul read is good!!
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Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

Postby Garth Kay » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:28 am

I saw this yesterday and was going to reply, but ran out of time and missed the boat.

The one thing that stood out to me was his bet sizing on the turn compared to the flop.

To me the flop bet was an overbet and this normally comes from PFR (who aren't regs) when they are drawing or have an underpair, or the reverse when they hit strong.

Now if they are strong on the flop they generally will continue to barrel pot on the turn as well. If they are that type of player.

The same can be said for his min raise from MP range, especially 50+ bb's deep. It's either QQ+ or low pockets, suited connectors or just connectors.

When he half pots the turn I instantly assume he has, what he believes is a made hand, two pair, straight, set combos.

The line isn't that confusing, it's just a betting pattern from someone who is unsure about his hand or cards right up until he hits the nuts with them.
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Re: Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

Postby BigPete33 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:03 pm

Thanks Garth,

I'm trying to see how that flop bet is considered a good idea by that player, can't say I'm making progress :)
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Re: Can I get some thoughts on this hand please?

Postby Jav1000 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:30 pm

The pot size bet to me says you're ahead everytime and I never fold my hand once he pots it [unless I have history on this player to say otherwise].

I would almost never flat call that flop [as it's 3 ways] as most likely one of them is drawing.

I would probably shove all-in and hope hands like AA, KQ, AK or even AQ calls you as it seems you were never gonna fold [and I don't think draws call].

BUT, in saying all that, if you're gonna flat call the flop, then you must flat call the turn when the draw gets there and see if the board pairs on the river.

Once he shoves the river, it's just a fold as he's not worried that you might have the made draw [considering you've flat called him twice which usually indicates chasing a draw].


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