madali wrote:Amen to Krunchie. Looking at other possibilities is not a weakness. Obviously in this forum we have a lot of great players all with a lot of natural talent. I have said it before that Jo is one of the most naturally talented players I have played against and is results in the league show this. However I think that by not being open to other possibilities you are limiting this talent and not reaching its full potential.
Great post!
I guess it also comes down to being exposed to different situations and different structures as well. In 888pl poker players are frequently short stacked, and Jo you would definitely be one of the better players at grinding a short stack and moving those extra few places up the points / cash (whether that me in a live or online game).
The mindset of where i was coming from (and others too, but im only assuming that) was what was the best way to maximise our profits over the long term in a more "regular" tournament environment (i.e. where as average stack is much more than just a few big blinds). That would mean going for wins rather than min-cash. In those situations (and it differs depending on who you talk to and what book you read) but the 'shove/fold' stage of a tournament will typically begin at about 10-20BB.
Now these numbers aren't just some players theory or hunch or experiences, they are actually based on the math behind maximising our EV, taking into account fold equity etc. And, shove/folding when under 10 BB IS pretty much universally accepted as the optimal way of doing things. So in this circumstance, its not really one or two players opinion against yours, its actually many many more (hence your incorrect assumpiton of a gang mentality).
Assuming that most regular, successful 888pl players (of which you are one) would eventually want to find success in other environments outside 888pl (other casino tournaments, larger online tournaments) then i find it really strange that you wouldn't be seeking out as many different opinions as possible, and wondering where they cam from and the justification behind them.
Its only then that we can improve our understanding of broader concepts, which go in into forming our own unique playing style. Lots of different styles can be successful in poker, and pleaser don't think that anybody was attacking your style, as against the predominant 888pl player, a TAG strategy works very well, but in this specific situation it is NEVER correct to be flat calling a raise with a 5BB stack. Never ever ever, ever-ever.
