David wrote:Not sure why Jav didn't raise enough to put you all in considering your stack.
FYI
Jav1000 wrote:I agree it was too much Pre as I was watching the cricket and took the lazy option of hitting one of the auto raises and thought he had 8.5k.
As I mentioned earlier, I was trying to rep a big hand, and I thought raising would look stronger than just shoving again. My thinking was I could get him to fold more hands this way. Since I was holding a K, I thought any pair or Ace would be the only the hands he would shove even though he was short stacked (only Jo can answer this one but that is what I thought based on our images) but thinking he had 8.5k, I was folding to his shove Pre.
I was surprised when Jo just called Pre and mentally gave up the hand unless I hit my King but when the flop came 9 high and saw that Jo only had just over 3k left in a 7k flop, a check would've been the same as folding, but I believed there might be some hands he might fold but if he calls my King was most likely live if I hit based on that flop.
I'll add that I shoved the 2 previous orbits but gave him about 4 walks out of 5-6 orbits previous to that. I felt my only options were to raise to represent a big hand or fold Pre, I never considered shoving Pre as I was only ever being called by a better hand.
Also, need to consider that Jo & I have a good idea on how we each play (Jo may doubt that now
) and that kind of play would only work with someone who understands the game beyond what hand their holding (compliment 
).Obviously, my Pre-Flop raise amount changed everything.
JMACK007 wrote:Yeah, particularly if he is gonna shove the flop with air anyway....
I didn't ever expect there to be a flop.
And, am I sensing that you're still pissed about it?
