Showing cards to win a pot when everyone folds

[Bacon]

This is the reason I won't show my cards if I am calling someone. I wait for them to show first. I then make the choice to show/muck.

[rcon]

SHOWDOWN = When 2 or more players are contesting a pot.

and thanks Des, I really thought the showdown was something the crows and port did. smartar.se

[Garth Kay]

I've seen it happen at casino's regularly.
Player A has been betting at the pot, bluffing his stack off, player B has been calling him down.

Player B calls the river bet and Player A knowing his bluff has not worked mucks his hand without showing.

Player B claims the pot as he is the only live runner remaining, he does not have to show to claim the pot.

Although I have seen a poker room manager make Player B table his hand to claim the pot. This is not right. And Player B argues his butt off that he didn't have to. But what the Floor or Dealer states, has to be done and eventually he did.

Is that what we are discussing?

[xtal]

GRRRRR you dont have to show your cards ROCKford and if you did your a fool I tells ya

[rcon]

Sort of - general discussion that came up after Player A had been bet out of a pot.

Cards are being riffled for the next hand, Player A claims then that NPL doesn't enforce its own rules with regards to the "must show both cards to win a pot"

I state - nah dude, showdowns only.

He says: nah, rules say that "to claim a pot, you must show both cards"

I'm certain it is only for showdowns, so a discussion occurs. Nothing untoward, just curiosity (so TDs didn't get involved)



xtal - wasn't my cards, but thanks for your concern

[Garth Kay]

At showdowns, both cards need to be claimed to win the pot.
Gees if I had to show everytime I bet someone out of the pot with my rag hands I would be in all sorts of trouble.

Everyone would know my game!
LOL

[rcon]

At showdowns, both cards need to be claimed to win the pot.
Gees if I had to show everytime I bet someone out of the pot with my rag hands I would be in all sorts of trouble.

Everyone would know my game!
LOL

HA!

I was damn certain I was right, but you never know, so I thought I'd check.

[xtal]

Sort of - general discussion that came up after Player A had been bet out of a pot.

Cards are being riffled for the next hand, Player A claims then that NPL doesn't enforce its own rules with regards to the "must show both cards to win a pot"

I state - nah dude, showdowns only.

He says: nah, rules say that "to claim a pot, you must show both cards"

I'm certain it is only for showdowns, so a discussion occurs. Nothing untoward, just curiosity (so TDs didn't get involved)



xtal - wasn't my cards, but thanks for your concern

well then

[Dug]

Can someone give me their interpretation to this one:
Rule is if your hand is shown before a betting round is complete then that is a mucked hand.

However i was playing on a table just recently:

2 players were involved up to the river:
Player 1 goes all in. Player 2 umms and ahhs then turns over his hand, AK or whatever, shows everyone his tough decision, being a bit arrogant, then decides to fold.
Is this allowed?

[Brett Kay]

Asking to see mucked cards after the showdown is considered to be bad poker etiquette. Think it was at the Joe Hachem Deep Stack Series, a well known pro, reached into the muck to see what the cards were and lost a lot of respect as well as got a two or 4 orbit penalty, that is sitting out for 40 hands.

However in some cases as a player, you can ask to see just to see if you had the person on the right hand. E.g AK Playing AJ. Online it is a lot easier when you can check to see what hands were tabled at showdown. I do it a lot as it helps me to work out what the player was playing off. Nothing like seeing a pair of tens being called down by A 7 off.

Most of the time a simple "if i fold will you show me", most players will. Either for Bluffing or bragging rights.

Cheers,
Brett