WOULD YOU MAKE THE CALL

[bennymacca]

I'm going to have to spend the day inventing a word for it I think

i am thinking of a word that starts with d, and ends with y

[BigPete33]

'dodgy' just doesn't cut it

[muzzington]

You were naive to think they'd fold a draw.

[bennymacca]

'dodgy' just doesn't cut it

stup up pete, you are such a daisy diary sometimes

[BigPete33]

lol, it's just getting worse isn't it

[Bacon]

No, Dopey, it's definitely dinky di

[stevo]

While both are questionable calls depending on my read I might make the call with either hands, although I actually think the Q7 hand had more reason to call in this situation than the 99 and I would probably get out of the hand with the 99. With a check-raise play I would probably put you on the straight so holding 99 I would be unsure whether you held the up or down straight, as there was a good chance that you had 9 10 I would probably fold as I might be drawing dead anyway so not worth the risk. The Q7 on the other hand had the flush draw and actually had good odds to call both times (due to the 99 hand calling both raises), the 1500 call was for a pot of about 6000 so that's 1:4 odds, the call of your all-in was for a pot of about 16K so again about 1:4 odds..... so depending on whether you want to take a risk and chase or not (and for a pot of 16K it looks very attractive) the person with Q7 actually had +EV so you can't blame them for calling.

I think the main problem you faced was that your stack wasn't really enough to cause people to fold after you had checked and then saw a small raise and call before your all-in (your fold equity had diminished with the check-raise play). If you raised straight from the flop rather than checking you would have had more fold equity and may have seen the other guys fold, although in NPL that would still have been highly unlikely!

[Scotty]

(your fold equity had diminished with the check-raise play)

That's what I was getting at - completely agree Steve.

[BigPete33]

I haven't bothered to work out who had however many outs yet, but a flush draw is a shade over 1:4 on either the turn or river (1:4.22 and 1:4.11). If it's 1:4 as far as money in the pot goes, that's basically an even money call. But it's a flush draw! It's getting chased

I also notice there wasn't a raise pre-flop.

I can't help thinking that someone should be miffed for even letting the player with Q7 into the hand.

[todd182]

you all make vaild points and now i've cool down a little bit im not as pissed. the call still bothers me but maybe i should of bet in straight away.

one thing if 99 raised pre flop then i would of folded and i wouldnt have this problem. oh and (how many chips has this guy got? If his tournament life isn't riding on the hand, it's a lot easier call to make)

he had about 9k. so im now maybe 60/40 on the call. did i play it right of not, i was alway gonna check raise but didnt even think about betting of the bat.