anyone play at skycity?

[Wiilko]

you buy in for around the lowest buy in play reckless like a donkey calling pretty much any thing mucking face up pretty much like a noob would play , then you rebuy for what ever and change how you play so when you come in to a hand they think you have crap and are more likely to call with average hands

[maccatak11]

you buy in for around the lowest buy in play reckless like a non-thinking player calling pretty much any thing mucking face up pretty much like a noob would play , then you rebuy for what ever and change how you play so when you come in to a hand they think you have crap and are more likely to call with average hands

So you lose money almost on purpose at the start, playing really loose and then later you change your style and play normal - except everyone thinks you are crap, calls you with anything and you get sucked out on by people that called you with a bigger range of hands than they normally would.


This has to be one of the most ridiculous concepts i have heard in recent memory. I think that with ideas like this, you could play your normal game and people would still think you are 'advertising' (or whatever its called).

Silly, just plain silly.

[Wiilko]

you buy in for around the lowest buy in play reckless like a non-thinking player calling pretty much any thing mucking face up pretty much like a noob would play , then you rebuy for what ever and change how you play so when you come in to a hand they think you have crap and are more likely to call with average hands

So you lose money almost on purpose at the start, playing really loose and then later you change your style and play normal - except everyone thinks you are crap, calls you with anything and you get sucked out on by people that called you with a bigger range of hands than they normally would.


This has to be one of the most ridiculous concepts i have heard in recent memory. I think that with ideas like this, you could play your normal game and people would still think you are 'advertising' (or whatever its called).

Silly, just plain silly.

it does work though and it is gambling so why not and you dont do it every time you go

[Scotty]

This is actually fairly commonplace in rebuy tournaments. Not 'trying to lose' early on, but representing yourself as very LAG player. The nature of the tournament structure allows you to do so. Can get a little pricey, though

[maccatak11]

If it was such a good strategy then wouldn't you do it every time?

Im finding it very hard to believe that this has ever worked, and the times it has, the player would have just got lucky with subsequent cards after they started playing 'properly'.


I think it is a much more profitable move to establish a tight table image by playing a tight-agressive game style, and gradually loosen your game as the night wears on to eventually win many free pots because of this tight image.

It would take a lot of explaining to convince me that playing bad on purpose is ever a move that will be profitable, in any situation. Ever.

[bennymacca]

in a rebuy, pushing all in with draws etc to get chipped up has its merits, but can get expensive.

as for deliberately losing cash, well im not sure about that.

what happens if u go card dead after u rebuy? then its 2 buyins down the toilet.

and matt is right, once u start playing good, u pretty much have to win every showdown, or it won't be worth it.

[Scotty]

Im finding it very hard to believe that this has ever worked, and the times it has, the player would have just got lucky with subsequent cards after they started playing 'properly'.

It's a widely used, successful strategy in rebuy tournaments/ If you find it hard to believe, well ... that's up to you.

It would take a lot of explaining to convince me that playing bad on purpose is ever a move that will be profitable, in any situation. Ever.

Again, it's not a matter of convincing anyone this is either the only way to approach a rebuy, or that it is in fact a successful one - it works for many online and live players and if you choose to believe it never works and you'd be silly for trying it ... again, your prerogative. I've used it many times in the past, for both reasons I mentioned; to build a big stack that can be used to pick up alot of pots when the money (obviously bigger than normal at the first payout level due to the rebuys)is approaching and the shorter stacks have tightened up considerably, and also to induce that extra one or two marginal calls due to the looser image I'd established prior to the rebuy period ending.

[maccatak11]

I take you point scott that in a re-buy tournament a player may widen the range of hands that they raise/call with in efforts to win big pots early in a tournament, with the back-up of being able to re-buy should they lose one of their drawing hands.


But this conversation was about skittles games at the casino, not rebuy tourneys. In cash games, people tightening/loosening their games in response to blind levels becomes much less relevent; there is no bubble, people don't have their tournament life on the line when they have top pair and you go over the top.


I maintain that in ring games, this strategy is flawed and would rarely work.

(i was probably a little hasty in saying that it won't work in any situation ever )

[Scotty]

Sorry mate, I thought they conversation had steered toward talk of the rebuy tournament at the Cas. My posts specifically related to rebuy tournaments.

In cash games, the game and structure are completely different. Pots are not treated the same way - and cash games aren't the same war of attrition that tournaments are. I certainly don't advocate dropping afew buy ins in cash games to create a loose image that you can exploit later.

Tournaments and cashies = 2 completely different kettles of fish

[maccatak11]

yeah, i tried to quote wilko in my above post but the quotes weren't working for some reason???