What would you do in this situation??

[Kookies2304]

hey guys I played at the cas the other night and got dealt pocket 3's, I was BB so I just checked 2 other runners. the flop was A63 rainbow.

as BB I bet first $3000 bb only being $800, the guy who was utg goes all in way over the top ($16,000) called by the other guy ($8000) I had about $6000 left so I called as well.

UTG had 2 pair (A3) the other guy also had trips (6's) didn't realize till later but I was dead on the flop when they got rolled

UTG took it in the end he hit the house on the river with the 3rd A coming.

[Brett Kay]

Reads on players?
Relative Stack sizes?

How come no preflop raise for information? Get a fold and take down the 2400 right there.

Why overbet the pot? Why not check when you think you are ahead and the call or reraise?

Basically what has happened is you have no idea what hands they have, your just guessing.

Raising preflop can give a better inidication of strength. And if you have been paying attention, could narrow it down further.

Checking the flop to them, and seeing what kind of bet they chuck out. Can then narrow it down even further.

[mr_niceguy_1979]

I would call, you just got unlucky and that's poker

[bennymacca]

a set of 3's on the flop, after checking the BB usually would put you in a position of power, as they wouldn't see it coming.

i would have checked the flop, as i would have probably though my set was good there.

then, if the other two players went crazy, it might have allowed you to get away. but still i think i would be calling regardless in that situation

thats just bad luck in that case as you were completely dead without even knowing it

[Ashley Higgins]

i agree with Brett as well why lead out so much on the flop? but generally that is just a hand made for TV and is very unlucky that someone else had a set as well. very hard to get away from sets on a flop. i would have called in that situation you found yourself in due to i had already invested so much and would thought i was ahead with a set

[stevo]

You have to call here as the only likely hand that would beat you is the 66 and if the other guy has that (which he did) then it's just unlucky.

Having said that not raising pre-flop, and your overbet on the flop, didn't really allow you to gain any information which is key playing from the BB as you will be out of position for the rest of the hand.

[Kookies2304]

the guy in middle did have 66 in the end and I was first to act as SB had folded

[Bacon]

I agree that post-flop, the check-raise move would've been better, but you were never gonna get any money from the pot in this scenario.

However, to those saying a pre-flop raise could've been in order, to what size are you suggesting he raised in BB with 33? They ain't so good. He might've got A3 to fold, but 66 was probably calling any raise under 4x BB. 66 didn't raise from mp/lp either.

It was just a bad shuffle for you.

[stevo]

Exactly Bacon, the pre-flop raise may have allowed you to give more chance that the guy was holding 66. I don't think a pre-flop raise would necessarily have got the 66 off the hand but it MAY have given you more info as to what the guy was holding. If you thought he would have probably folded A3 or A6 then you can start to rule that out which means the range of hands you are beating decreases and so you might start to lean towards folding.

I'm not saying this would have been an easy hand to get out of (you are probably stuck here, and just plain unlucky, as folding a set to a higher set is pretty unlikely) but without raising you aren't getting much information, and playing out of position without information is bad news and best to avoid.

[Garth Kay]

Yeah I don't think you are getting away from that hand.

You really dont have a lot of information here for me to answer as thoroughly as I like.

But in this scenario, as far as you are concerned, it's a dream flop for you, you have hit your set, although it is bottom set, to two passive limps pre flop.

You are just unlucky it's a board everyone hit.

But two things:

1.) Magic flop, why push everyone out, or attempt to with an overpot bet on the flop. Bet half the pot to three quarters here, gain some information.

3.) What type of players where your two opponents, what hands do the open with from those positions.


In the end I am not putting anybody on AA here, 66 is a possibility for a M-L P limper, but I am still getting all my chips in here.

I would be check raising it, but if I see preceeding action that follows with a raise and re raise I am reconsidering the strength of my hand, and depending on my read I might be able to get away from bottom set. Doubtful but I might, depending on stack size, blinds and stage of tournament.

Anyway thats an extremely cold deck,