Question of the Day - 01/09/08

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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby Bacon » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:40 pm

muzzington wrote:* Game: Omaha Eight-or-Better
* Position: Button
* Type of Game: Loose
* Blinds: $2-$4
* Your hand: [kc] [5s] [5c] [ac]

Question:

It is a multi-way pot and the flop comes [3d] [5h] [6s]. The first player to act bets and the next player in line raises. The action is folded around. What should you do?


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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby muzzington » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:53 pm

muzzington wrote:* Game: Omaha Eight-or-Better
* Position: Button
* Type of Game: Loose
* Blinds: $2-$4
* Your hand: [kc] [5s] [5c] [ac]

Question:

It is a multi-way pot and the flop comes [3d] [5h] [6s]. The first player to act bets and the next player in line raises. The action is folded around. What should you do?


Answer:

Fold. You may have a set of fives but with a bet and a raise in front of you on a low flop like this it is unprofitable to proceed. You will be forced to call the two bets with the original better still to act. A flop like this virtually guarantees a qualifying low and so you're only really playing for half the pot. With a bet and a raise it's also probable that someone has flopped a straight and you will have to improve to even take the high.

Poll Results: Call (34%) Re-raise (31%) Fold (35%)
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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby Brett Kay » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:22 pm

muzzington wrote:
muzzington wrote:* Game: Omaha Eight-or-Better
* Position: Button
* Type of Game: Loose
* Blinds: $2-$4
* Your hand: [kc] [5s] [5c] [ac]

Question:

It is a multi-way pot and the flop comes [3d] [5h] [6s]. The first player to act bets and the next player in line raises. The action is folded around. What should you do?


Answer:

Fold. You may have a set of fives but with a bet and a raise in front of you on a low flop like this it is unprofitable to proceed. You will be forced to call the two bets with the original better still to act. A flop like this virtually guarantees a qualifying low and so you're only really playing for half the pot. With a bet and a raise it's also probable that someone has flopped a straight and you will have to improve to even take the high.

Poll Results: Call (34%) Re-raise (31%) Fold (35%)


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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby muzzington » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:14 am

Game: No-Limit Hold'em

Your Stack: 1.1 million

Opponents Stack:1.3 million

Question:

You are playing in a massive multi-table tournament online. There are 55 left of 12,000. Your image is fairly loose-aggressive. You have been stealing frequently and only once have you been played back at. In an earlier hand you raised pre-flop, c-bet, and had to fold to a small raise. The blinds are $10,000/$20,000 with a $2,000 ante. The table has been playing tight so you elect to raise [as] [9h] to $55,000 from middle position. A player on the button calls and everyone else folds. The flop comes [5s] [7h] [8c]. You c-bet $90,000 and the button min-raises to $180,000. What should you do?
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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby Scotty » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:28 am

Without knowing what the average stack size is, or my stack size relative to all but one person on the table, it's hard to say. But my line here would be to fold. His min re-raise could purely be to weed out my obvious c-bet, but I'm not so sure that he isn't reasonably strong himself. The sort of hand that could get very ugly for me if I continue on with it.

So fold, having only lost a small portion of my stack.

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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby muzzington » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:38 am

Just for comparison, the next biggest stack on the table is 1.2 million, and the next is 800,000.
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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby Scotty » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:44 am

Then I'm definitely folding. I'm up against the the only stack larger than mine on the table.

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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby bennymacca » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:45 am

since the stacks are BIG compared to the bet size, i would probably flat call here.

you have a gutshot, and 2 overcards.

i would probably put the player on AJ or something, so i would call and fire again on the turn and try to take the pot.

something like 66 might also be a possibility, which would probably get folded to a turn bet if the straight doesn't come either.
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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby David » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:47 am

Fold Equity here.

So fold.
Having such a large stack to match you is dangerous on a board where you haven't hit and are relying on a gutshot, or hitting a card.
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Re: Question of the Day - 01/09/08

Postby bennymacca » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:11 am

David wrote:Fold Equity here.

So fold.
Having such a large stack to match you is dangerous on a board where you haven't hit and are relying on a gutshot, or hitting a card.


true, but min-raise smells of him also not hitting.

but you are right, the other player also having a big stack means it is definitely safer folding.
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