Topic 2. Pot Odds.

[BigPete33]

nup.

the less polite version is....

stupid persons guide to pot odds = 'wow I can win lots' and that's as much thought goes into it.


what? you made me say it

[Garth Kay]

Pete,
I think we need to educate you a little bit more, but you do sound awfully bitter! Had a few too many suckouts mate?

[BigPete33]

nup, im fine

[Garth Kay]

You will tonight

[Scotty]

It's all Scot's fault really, he was having a friendly joke and it somehow made you guys think I was saying something that I wasn't.

All good tho, was having a chuckle about it with him last night at the Bremen

That wasn't me, it must've been somebody else ....

[Scotty]

Just realized you're the only one who'll get a laugh out of that, Pete

[BigPete33]

It is pretty funny

now apologise to everyone for including a private joke

[zemond]

In addition to Brett Kays excellent break down of pot odds, I would like to contribute something.

(I also dont know if he mentinoed this as I didnt read the whole thing)

Say the Pot is worth $1000 and someone greatly underbets the pot. Say a bet of $100 (total pot $1100) the money return ratio is 11:1 and say we are on the flush draw 3:1 (pre turn) then we are getting great value right?

It this curcumstance, I like to put pressure back on the orginal better buy increasing his bet to the ratio required for a "gamble", now having the correct odds to call doesnt always make it a good call. It simply means the return is right for the bet. ( A big stack should do this )

So the player bets $100, Id still call if the bet was in the $500 area.
So I can put pressure back on the better by raising another $400. In the assumption of implied odds that he will call I could even go to say $600 (rough figure). And this can go down 3 ways

* He will fold (very good for us, take down the pot then and there)
* He will call (still good we have the odds, and now this player is concerned, we dont actualy have to hit our flush to appear strong)
* He re-raises (Not good, so make sure if you use this information try to put your player on a range of hands that wont re-raise)

I would actualy like to know what brett thinks about this, so chuck in a reply

Cheers
-- Zemond

[BigPete33]

I'm waiting patiently for Brett's mega hot tips on implied odds.

[Garth Kay]

Or fold equity?
-EV vs +EV?
Fear equity?
Playing the big stack? Irrelevant for you Pete, never has a big stack
Tournament strategy for beginners?
Play your position?
Blind stealing?
Setting up the bluff?
Knowing when to bluff?
The list goes on and on.