Cowboys shotup in a shootout.

[Des]

I missed A Q J T

[AceLosesKing]

5 cards on the board.

Even though you know your opponent has AA and you are drawing to 2 cards.

[krunchie]

an apt description,

i like it

might have to make that my signature

[Des]

5 cards on the board.

Even though you know your opponent has AA and you are drawing to 2 cards.

Didnt scott say that?

[gundog]

Krunchie I know his game to a degree

You say this like its a bad thing gunny

its called setting an image, thats the whole point

You have no idea how many times you have folded to my @#$% all.

No I wasnt as a bad thing more the point that the bulk of the players at the table were CALL, CHECK players that show little aggression.

With you Mega and myself gone from the table it became a fairly passive table rarely a re raise was seen. (Which is a very common trait for a lot of Waikerie final table players)

What I ment was that I had 5 cards come of which any one of the five could be a King, to improve my hand assuming there was 2 kings left in the deck.

Irrespective of what the odds are, a lot of luck comes into it when there is no more betting and 5 cards to come, I could hit runner runner runner runner and thats luck

[Garth Kay]

Krunchie I know his game to a degree

You say this like its a bad thing gunny

its called setting an image, thats the whole point

You have no idea how many times you have folded to my @#$% all.

No I wasnt as a bad thing more the point that the bulk of the players at the table were CALL, CHECK players that show little aggression.

With you Mega and myself gone from the table it became a fairly passive table rarely a re raise was seen. (Which is a very common trait for a lot of Waikerie final table players)

What I ment was that I had 5 cards come of which any one of the five could be a King, to improve my hand assuming there was 2 kings left in the deck.

Irrespective of what the odds are, a lot of luck comes into it when there is no more betting and 5 cards to come, I could hit runner runner runner runner and thats luck

Yet poker is a game of skill and in the end; luck should never be used as a reasoning as to why you made a play or called.

In the end, who really is going to fold KK there on the final table. With your read on players it could have quite easily being AK or QQ rather than AA. If I can see anyone fold KK on the final table of a regular NPL event I will shout them an ice cream.

But if you feel behind and have a read you shouldn't be making a call based on "five cards to come, I feel lucky". Calls should be made based on odds and expected value.

[bennymacca]

if you fold kings EVER in a standard NPL game, then you are a bad player.

if you run into aces instead of AK, or QQ, then you say bad luck it wasn't your night.

[maccatak11]

same thing happened to me two weeks ago.

Im in mid position with KK, UTG raises, i put in a large re-raise and the button shoves for lots.

hmmm. what hand could it be other than aces??? Possibly QQ, but im sure a person with AKoff here would prob just flat it.

I was sure he had aces, positive. But i called anyway. And he showed aces.

But KK is a hand i have never layed down pre-flop. QQ a few times, but never KK.

[krunchie]

I was sitting at that table at the time

And i remember thinking how obvious it was too me that he had aces as well and the shock of you going out early with KK

but your right, never going to lay them down, and from memory I think he would have made the same play with AK.

[Bacon]

if you fold kings EVER in a standard NPL game, then you are a bad player.

if you run into aces instead of AK, or QQ, then you say bad luck it wasn't your night.

I folded AA at the last States.