Championship Weekend Discussion

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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby Bob B » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:52 pm

BigPete33 wrote:The main NPL website has some 'rules' on it.

They are essentially NSW cash game rules (I'm led to believe).

You are correct in saying this has been brought up before. Season 1, 2007 to be exact and it was in reference to the chip-up in the breaks. I brought it up myself.


I new I had heard or read it somewhere Pete.

David I totally agree with you. I just thought I'd put it up for full viewing as to how our rules aren't what they are. Especially when they are someone elses but we use bits and pieces of them. :oops: :o
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby BigPete33 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:57 pm

Just a reminder......

Click on 'board index' and on the left hand side you will see a link for the NPL rules that we use.


I'm not sure if they are 100% up to the minute but they are certainly more accurate for SA (and I assume VIC and TAS).
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby rcon » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:05 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Especially the option to not sit down in the first place.
I think you'll continue to get exactly the same play if that was the line you took - people are still going to come, don..., er, dump, their chips, and leave, but not say they've got to go (after they get a warning).

If you educate them about it, they might just hand their chips in - which I've done before.

I think it is disrespectful to do it in a big "special" event, but lets face it, most people are not going to treat their regular Friday night NPL game in quite the same way.
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby Bob B » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:07 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Just a reminder......

Click on 'board index' and on the left hand side you will see a link for the NPL rules that we use.


I'm not sure if they are 100% up to the minute but they are certainly more accurate for SA (and I assume VIC and TAS).


Tah Pete. To be honest I wouldn't bother watching a chip up but I'd like to see NPL adapt a better system to cut out the "I had more chips when I went on my break crap". There is a better system but it's done by unmentionables to eliminate that sort of crap.
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby BigPete33 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:14 pm

To be fair, there's plenty of players who somehow manage to count 500's as 1000's :)

I think if there IS an error, there'll still be the right amount of chips on the table but someone might have more than they should (and therefore the person complaining has less than they should).

Can't really see the person with more owning up to it :)
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby David » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:37 pm

More often than not it's the player who made a mistake.
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby Tim Harry » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:01 pm

BigPete33 wrote:Yeah I have to say that having 2 different tourneys on at the same time really did lead to a lot of confusion, especially as it wasn't really clear on if players could participate in both or not.

I really do feel that if players had to buy in to the partners event then it would have cut down the number of players who were also playing in the regional event from registering as they may not have wanted to waste their money by up and leaving. It's pretty pointless to start a tournament only to up and leave and IMO you just look like a dick by doing that. If you want to navigate yourself between the 2 tourneys that's a different matter and if you feel you can play that way then good luck to you.

Of most concern would definitely have to be the communication of exactly what was happening with the stamp cards for the tourneys where stamp cards were being used. It was nothing short of very poor, there's no way to sugar coat that I'm afraid.

A suggestion for the cash rebuy tourney would be to have ONE stamp card and it's a rebuy before the break or add-on after it (players choice when they use it). This would mean a LOT less confusion as to exactly when it can be used particularly when used in conjunction with cash. There were just too many options and given most of the field were still saying 'rebuy? errggghh?' it would have helped everyone a lot.

A suggestion for the partners event would be to actually explain at all what's supposed to happen with the stamp cards BEFORE the event.
All we knew was 'there are stamp cards'. Even when we asked we got some pretty sub-standard answers and it seemed different pieces of information were being given depending which staff member you asked. I do understand though that the method of using them was changed on the day so that no doubt contributed, but still - SOME prior info would have been good. Can't really develop a strategy without it.

REALLY need to keep the partners/spectators further back from the play during the partners event. Not so easy to do at Settlers though to be fair.

On the positive side, the Main Event was run smoothly as it always is. I very much like the 5k starting stack and 30 min blind levels.

Another thing worth mentioning is that Tim is very clearly already doing a magnificent job as the Poker Manager. Absolutely anything I saw that needed Tim's input was done swiftly and correctly, he was all over it. He's very good on the mic too as anyone who has had him as a TD would tell you. Top stuff Tim.

Can we please have Tim explain stuff instead of Nathan? Sorry Nathan but you suck balls at explaining things.


Hey Pete,

Firstly, thank for the comments mate, very much appreciated! Just touching on a few points in your post.....

Unfortunately the spanner in the works was the tournament being changed last minute from a buy in event to a free roll. If it had run as planned then I don't think you would have had the issue of players bailing from the partners event as they had already invested in it.

Completely agreed that the timing, type of tourny structure & clearer clarification for players regarding stamp cards & tournament entry needs to be looked into. What it did do is let me know exactly what needs to be sorted out before the next Championships weekend.

Settlers was very tough to keep people back, especially for the partners event. Obviously they wanted to watch their partners but couldn't do that from the table area. Next time we run this type of event we will have a larger area to hold it in with clear defined boundries from spectators/prtners. Ditto with the Regional Teams event.

In the end this was the first 3 day, 6 event Champs that the NPL had run in SA & overall I think it was a fantastic success. We knew there was going to be issues come up that we hadn't thought of before hand & even when they did most were handled without players knowing or being affected. My job is to always be looking for ways to improve the weekend & make it fun & entertaining for all our players and that's exactly what I will be focussing on for the next Champs!

By the way, if you ever need any info, explanation or clarification regarding anything NPL related I'm there for you Pete!
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby BigPete33 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:10 pm

I have absolutely no doubt the next Championship weekend will not suffer from the same problems, you're a gun Tim!
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby Chelsea4thewin » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:29 pm

Pete i think the new cash games will be a breath of fresh air on these sort of topics, if people have paid money to enter they are less likely to be a complete wan*ers
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Re: Championship Weekend Discussion

Postby BigPete33 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:46 pm

I agree.
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