QQ v L/P opponent's reraise pre, nasty board

[AJG]

Opponent had been loose so far (60% vpip), but with very few raises and a lot of limps pre. He had played some pots aggressive post.
I had somewhat tight image, but really hadnt been geting much to play with... Was involved in a few pots which I played aggresively both pre and post. Hadn't limped a single pot.

#Game No : 226153421
***** Cassava Hand History for Game 226153421 *****
$25/$50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 02 08 2009 20:30:13
Tournament #24132604 $3 + $0.30 - Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: the_crow_4_j ( $3,498 )
Seat 3: jerinca1 ( $3,579 )
Seat 4: .pKoIkNeGr. ( $3,890 )
Seat 8: AndrewMular ( $4,454 )
Seat 9: mikeymike999 ( $3,924 )
Seat 10: doink44 ( $5,025 )
mikeymike999 posts small blind [$25]
doink44 posts big blind [$50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to .pKoIkNeGr. [qc] [qd]
the_crow_4_j raises [$175]
jerinca1 calls [$175]
.pKoIkNeGr. raises [$400]
AndrewMular raises [$625]
mikeymike999 folds
doink44 folds
the_crow_4_j folds
jerinca1 calls [$450]
.pKoIkNeGr. calls [$225]
** Dealing flop ** [td] [qh] [9h]
jerinca1 checks
.pKoIkNeGr. bets [$1,400]
AndrewMular calls [$1,400]
jerinca1 folds
** Dealing turn ** [jd]
????????

His reraise pre I didnt rate him having AK to highly as I had seen him limp this hand once and minraise once (to a limp). My read was KK or AA based on his low pfr tendancy... but of course I couldnt be sure.
He could have connected with something like [ah] [th], but again his pfr would suggest not. He had also not shown a tendancy to chase...

I am pretty sure there is only one course of action here, mainly interested to know if anyone would consider a fold here.

I will post the remainder of the hand, as I also have some questions about the hand from opponents point of view...

[Brett Kay]

60 40.

Have 10 outs to make quads or full house.

Behind to any K any 8. And if he is chasing a flush draw he is in trouble.

Either way a push is most profitable. Check raise, could be better for value.

As for him playing the handm will wait and see.

[AceLosesKing]

This is 888pl and you've just been 4b preflop, that narrows his range massively. Usually, to TT+ or AK. Against those hands:

TT: Winning.
JJ: Winning.
QQ: Chop.
KK: Losing, but you have 10 outs.
AA: Winning.
AK: Losing, but you have 10 outs.

So obv you wanna get it in. I would be VERY surprised if his 4b range is any wider than that, unless he's uber LAG. No, you're not folding on this turn, I put it in here. I don't see anyone folding this against this type of opponent.

Your 3b size should be begger preflop btw, go for 500.

[Brett Kay]

AK he is uber lag 60% VPIP. Makes the push that much easier.

[Brett Kay]

Actually i would say Loose Passive. If there is a low Pre Flop Raise value. Wouldn't be too suprised if 10 j was flipped over as well.

[AJG]

Well, I did push and he called and showed ...

ALK - He cant have QQ...
I would have raised more, but I had yet to have a 3bet called, and wanted action here... (I even thought of just flatting pre!)

But say I put him on AK/KK, is 10 outs really enough, especially with only the river to come, to risk my whole stack? And 10 probably needs to be discounted to 8 or 9 with the 3rd person seeing the flop, unless they called with a PP < 9 which I doubt...

Now my question here is, (and forget this is 888), is anyone ever laying Aces on that board? I have once in a similar situation to a very tight opponent, but I was a sure as I could be he'd made the straight and might even have flush draw to, but that was a specific time, different site, bigger MTT (and nearing the bubble) and the stacks were a bit different - I had only 1/4 of my stack in the pot, he had in almost half pre and shoved the flop... And also here I had the benefit of position... I have also seen it done in major tourneys on TV... People just seem to think they are the nuts regardless of board texture at these stakes... But there are so many hands I could have which have him beat. QQ, JJ, TT, AK, KQ, (maybe QJs?), all of which are playable at a 6max... Sure he still has outs, but not too many depending on my hand... AK and he can only hope for a chop with 1 out...

In this hand he instacalled, but I would have atleast given some thought to it. I probably would have called to, but I wouldnt have liked it...

and in this hand above: River was
OUCH!
Nothing like runner runner....
Think Im gonna take a week off poker...
Well maybe a few days...

[bennymacca]

i think you can definitely fold aces on that board. especially if it is a 3bet pot preflop, that board pretty much hits yoru opponents whole range (QQ in your case)

[Brett Kay]

Definitely able to fold aces. Straight draws and flush draws not to mention possible two pairs as well.

Your behind to a lot and ahead of a few.

Obviously take it and move on, take a note on the player never folds aces.

[AJG]

Yep, note was taken....
Even said in the chat: 'Pity people cant seem to get away from AA'
Although without that river I would be glad he couldnt

[AJG]

Actually i would say Loose Passive. If there is a low Pre Flop Raise value. Wouldn't be too suprised if 10 j was flipped over as well.

He did have low pfr, but wouldnt that mean JT too weak for him to 4bet with a low (actually ~3) pfr?
And Loose Passive is what I meant by LP in the title.
Just modified it to L/P as I realized LP would be read as Late Pos...