How do you know you are winning player?

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:15 pm

No I didnt work it out manually... But how can it work it differently?
How did you work it out, not knowing all my results?
30% doesnt even give me a single win and I have 3 of them???

Slightly less now as i didnt cash my last 3 games:
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:19 pm

AJG wrote:How did you work it out, not knowing all my results?


i worked it out from the challenge game results that are up on the 888pl website

my calculation was ROI = (amount won - buyin amount inc. fees)/(buyin amount inc. fees)
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:47 pm

bennymacca wrote:
AJG wrote:How did you work it out, not knowing all my results?


i worked it out from the challenge game results that are up on the 888pl website

my calculation was ROI = (amount won - buyin amount inc. fees)/(buyin amount inc. fees)

Well, they are a bit behind...
Last event I see listed is 19 July... over 2 weeks ago?

But even so, I won the first ever 6max I played, and 30% doesnt give me enough for even a single win... And the overall leaderboard lists 2 wins (1 obv since the 19th) and best freeroll Ive had was a 2nd.
Did you actually count 26 games?

And it doesnt list the winnings? How could you work that out?
And why would you do that to begin with?

Here are all results from the 3.30 buyins:
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The columns i collapsed are irelevant stats like # per day, $/hr, rake etc...

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at 25 games it was almost dead on 140%
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Scotty » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:19 pm

If I were calculating ROI, based on the figures in the 2nd screen cap, the ROI would be 6.39%.

EDIT: Sorry, 1st screen cap.

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby bennymacca » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 pm

AJG wrote:And it doesnt list the winnings? How could you work that out?
And why would you do that to begin with?


i worked it out from your finishing position and the amount of runners, and then using the payout structure to work out your cashes.

and the reason i did it was because i had an absolutely sick run in the cash games early on, where i cashed about 5 times in 6 games or something like that, and so when you said that your roi was near mine, i was just curious.

the way your ROI graph is calculated, my ROI would be 230%

i didnt do it to prove anything, i was just curious.
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:45 pm

So where does this 100 difference come from then?
I mean, ROI is a simple and well know formula?
This seems very odd...
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:49 pm

bennymacca wrote:i worked it out from your finishing position and the amount of runners, and then using the payout structure to work out your cashes.

Yeah, I just figured how after I posted asking...
Hadnt really played around too much on the leaderboard site...
That seems like a lot of work for curiosity...
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:51 pm

AJG wrote:So where does this 100 difference come from then?
I mean, ROI is a simple and well know formula?
This seems very odd...

Gonna contact HEM support or their forums about this....
Something not right there... :x
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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby Scotty » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:53 pm

AJG wrote:So where does this 100 difference come from then?
I mean, ROI is a simple and well know formula?
This seems very odd...


I've seen other ranking sites go that way too.

But yeah, ROI, as I've always known it, is net profit/amount invested.

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Re: How do you know you are winning player?

Postby AJG » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:56 pm

Scott wrote:If I were calculating ROI, based on the figures in the 2nd screen cap, the ROI would be 6.39%.

EDIT: Sorry, 1st screen cap.

I get 6.83...
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